Woman To Woman

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Shun (00:36.763)
Hey, I'm Sean.

Shannon (00:38.168)
Hi, and I'm Shannon.

Shun (00:40.313)
And we're the host of Wifey and Baby Mama. Happy Thursday, family, and happy Thursday to you, Baby Mama.

Shannon (00:46.742)
Happy Ferris Day to you too!

Shun (00:50.023)
Yes tonight we find ourselves and week nine peeps that's like mind-blowing, right? Hey, but it's it's happening. It's happening and the last couple of weeks You know, we've been discussing getting it together as mature adults and tonight that will continue with our topic titled woman to woman You bet it right fans are not gonna like me tonight. Okay, but I'm gonna have to tell y'all

Shannon (00:55.062)
Yeah, I know it's lying.

Shannon (01:15.246)
you

Shun (01:17.745)
They're gonna cut that out, sis, okay? And you know how much Betty, right? Now I'm a new woman. No, you know how much crying I had to do and praying to get to this point, you know, to be able to say, I no longer have the desire to come to anyone as a woman, you know? And tonight, we're going to try and dispel women confronting other women about their man's child, their man's in them.

Shannon (01:19.562)
Yeah, Betty right.

Shannon (01:40.686)
Hmm.

Shun (01:41.915)
You know now we can still live by the no pain no gain rule people, know that that doesn't apply here Betty now I'm gonna listen to both of them still they both my jam But the no pain no gain is a real thing, you know and growing relationships, you know in order to get something You got to give something. Yeah, know. Yeah. I know I gonna sing and you had to definitely forgive a lot You know, but going to another woman Shannon that's out of pocket, you know

Shannon (01:55.755)
yeah.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Shun (02:09.543)
I've discussed several scenarios over the last three seasons, you know, to let you guys know how I know that to be true. And tonight I'm gonna try to drive home how unnecessary and downright ineffective Shanna, I found that to be, you you ready? You ready? All right, let's go then, here we go. And ladies, this is quite possibly the most unattractive thing I did in my past. And I done did some things, you hear me.

Shannon (02:26.2)
Yeah, go ahead and hit it.

Shun (02:37.575)
But don't miss me totally now like let me put some out real quick though before I get started Before I get too far into the topic and anybody gets confused So this is what i'm Yvette Lashon games will never again on this side of heaven Call or press another chick about dealing with my husband or any other man I may deal with 100 years from now because as we all know things come to an end sometimes, you know, and i'm praying

Shannon (02:58.081)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (03:02.757)
that divorce will not be in my future, but that depends on the last two weeks we aired, okay? So I'm serious. I love my husband and I give this marriage 110%. But if it ever comes a time that I found my husband has been unfaithful, or that he's not treating me like the queen I am, Shanna, or he's not representing me out of my presence the way he should, we're gonna wrap it up, baby. At this wrong stage in my life, unhappiness, disrespect, faking.

Shannon (03:08.526)
Great, great.

Shannon (03:20.94)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (03:30.679)
Misery none of that's on my menu. So Let's pray he and I can stay on the same page, you know, which is what I think God called us for keep a happy home But if not, I can tell you It's gonna be smoke coming from my shoes getting the heck on. Okay, so now that we got that cleared up Let's get on with tonight's show and Shannon when you look back at it Tell me this isn't one of the craziest thing we can do as women Do you think so?

Shannon (03:33.431)
Right.

Shannon (03:47.864)
Yes, yes.

Shannon (03:55.752)
It is, it really is. The only difference is for me, you know, that's just something I've never done. I always blame the man first. guess I have more of a, I don't know. You know, I'm quick to attack a dude. You know, be like, it's you, it's you, you, you know, and the other woman is the other woman or whatever. If it's a situation where

Shun (04:17.735)
Okay.

Shannon (04:25.826)
there has been some cheating or some side conversations and those things. I always just look at the man. I've always been that way, don't know where it comes from. It has nothing to do with anything I've seen or learned or that I'm aware of, I guess. So I've never approached a woman. So you'll have to talk.

to me about, well, I've seen other girlfriends do it, of course, bust out other girls' windows and do all these different things. so you'll have to go. Mm-hmm. Lord. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Shun (04:58.609)
Right.

Shun (05:02.895)
I the one for the car. I wasn't really the one because your car can't fight me back. I want you I don't want your car. I don't want your egg your house I want you baby. So I was famous for it, you know, and I'm not I'm not I'm not proud of it But it is what it is, you know, and it's probably still some chicks out there They got probably got some knots on their head from getting you know getting hit in it but in hindsight All I did was make a fool out of me and and pay court fees getting arrested and you know why I'm getting bailed out

Shannon (05:17.443)
Yeah.

Shannon (05:21.816)
Hehehehehe

Shannon (05:28.62)
Yeah, yeah.

Shun (05:32.645)
Them ninjas right back laid up with the same broad. I just got finished going to woman to woman. You see what I'm saying? So after a while I was like, this is backwards. Like she couldn't be in his space if he didn't allow it. You know what I mean? But the young immature me was not to be disrespected. So I want people to be real clear. It wasn't always about, you with my man. They were disrespectful. don't tease him or come sit in front of my house in his car. Baby, you about to get got.

Shannon (05:35.88)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right.

Shannon (05:45.373)
Mm-hmm, right.

Shun (06:02.577)
So even that wasn't right, but I want people to understand it wasn't always about she messed with him So I'm gonna go fight. No, I mean I called but like I don't know if you know, but you know I'm his girl and da da da da da it all that was stupid But still now when I tell you and I catch you the second time you can beat down It still wasn't right. Even if I gave the girl a warning it wasn't right, you know But what back to what you said if it wasn't someone I knew or if it was a like out of town or somebody who didn't know we were together I didn't press that woman because I knew off the top like

Shannon (06:05.026)
Yeah, yeah.

Shannon (06:20.981)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Shannon (06:31.672)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right.

Shun (06:32.567)
How would they know about me? But like if you called yourself my friend or if you was from the town and you knew that we were together I had to go see you but that wasn't right though, you know, it still wasn't right and 99 % of the time Shannon it was always the man and I say 99 % because you do have some Disrespectful homewrecks out there now that don't matter if they know you married they don't care. Y'all live together They've been a side in your house messing with your man so

Shannon (06:37.646)
Mmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Shannon (06:52.174)
yeah, yeah.

Shannon (06:59.062)
Right.

Shun (06:59.599)
Referring back to the point of the disclaimer earlier. I will never approach another woman again. It's what I'm saying on God's green earth I'll never approach him. However, if you feel the need to come to me call my phone be funny You know when you see me, I still got a few jokes and strokes for you So I'm gonna buy to hear this episode and be like, she she don't care no more Don't don't play with me. So we're gonna be clear But that's not what I'm referring to. But what I'm referring to is

Shannon (07:16.877)
Yeah.

Shun (07:27.163)
Shannon let's say I clearly see or it's brought to my attention right that my significant other husband whoever is dealing with another man I'm sorry another woman Lord, please don't let it be me but if it's another But if it's another woman because girl these days they getting real serious with it but Moving right along If you if I catch them dealing with another woman that woman gonna find herself in a full-blown happy relationship with him Okay, courtesy of me cuz I'm gone. I'm out

Shannon (07:41.76)
Right. Yeah, yeah.

Shannon (07:51.918)
Mmm.

Yeah. Yeah.

Shun (07:55.729)
So I just need that to be so clear. I don't have time for that my grown 48 years of living. I don't, I'm done.

Shannon (08:01.138)
Exactly, exactly. So when you say disrespect, so for the young people listening, when you say you're not going to be disrespected, did you think about him disrespecting you? Because that's where my mind always went. It's like, he's disrespecting me, not her.

Shun (08:19.747)
Always well Well, let me let me you mean when I say future references are the things I used to do

Shannon (08:27.494)
Used to do yes used to do when you said you're not. Okay okay.

Shun (08:29.883)
When I used to do when I say that, both of them, I beat her up and him. I never let him get away. They both got it. It was equal opportunity. Baby, these hands was not, they did not discriminate. they both got it. But I usually got the woman first because I know where to find him at. You know what saying? So if it was someone I knew, okay, I'll get with her. But if it's somebody I I'm gonna get her now because I know where to find him at. I can always get with him. But she got it on sight.

Shannon (08:46.638)
Right, right.

Shannon (08:53.827)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Shun (08:56.839)
Especially but I was asked a question to now now did he tell you we you know We was together and that they know, know, didn't know I'm done with this dude We've done we squared up. Why it ain't like I'm just going around I see him when I want more I got to beat her up This is one bra three or four times. I gave this bra. So, you know, she played him. I don't know. We just friends Okay, cool. We're just friends. So when I caught it, that's why she got beat because I asked you I asked you because you know what had she told the truth Shannon she could have had it without the lumps

Shannon (09:02.126)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (09:10.231)
Yeah.

Shannon (09:19.852)
Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

Right.

Shun (09:26.979)
On our head you feel me, but she lied Several times so I felt it necessary to go ahead and bless her because don't play with me But when I did find out guess what I did I beat her up him up and still stayed its foolishness So why you know what I'm saying? but you know Shannon more than going to jail more than the bail fees and the bail bonds and As I had daughters that started to become young ladies become of age

Shannon (09:31.886)
Bye.

Shannon (09:35.907)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (09:43.65)
Yeah, yeah.

Shun (09:56.167)
It was a major factor in me decided to change my behavior, to show them the right way. You know, they're going to repeat what we do, whether we ask them to or not. Cause you know how I know that to be true. My mom was in the street. She was addicted. My mom did a lot of things that I said, I never do that. I never do. I found myself doing them with one, which was running up and beating people down. I was like, you know what? I would just let them have it. But when you're in the moment and you can't say that cause you're so angry and you're so enraged. And it's like,

Shannon (10:00.366)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (10:04.546)
Right, right.

Shannon (10:19.917)
Yeah.

Shannon (10:24.418)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Shun (10:25.755)
This is like they don't play in my face like this Even though I said, wouldn't know. I'm too cute for that honey, I keep it clean up girl when it happens to you sometimes ladies I'm asking you I'm imploring you to please think before you act because I promise you it's not worth it number one and Shannon with young ladies growing up I Couldn't have it now. They're gonna still get some things wrong regardless of how classy I am or how I've changed But then we got to give them time to bump their heads, you know, we got to give them that

Shannon (10:51.352)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (10:55.579)
But I'm still obligated to try and show them the right way to carry themselves as women, you know? And what I want them to get from my actions when it comes to this topic, right now, this age, we don't have to repeat things in prayer. I ain't gonna repeat continually to no grown man what you should and shouldn't do. Go and be women, my daughters, all young ladies, women all around the world. Go find someone who knows your work or stay single and treat yourself like a queen.

Shannon (10:56.012)
Right. Right.

Shannon (11:01.753)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (11:14.593)
Right.

Mm-hmm.

Shannon (11:22.05)
Yeah.

Shun (11:24.421)
That would be my advice on this topic the woman the woman it has to go What do you think? now even though You never did it when you would see other women do it like how did you react to that? Or what you think about that?

Shannon (11:24.621)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Right. Yeah, I agree. Mm-hmm.

Shannon (11:38.99)
I didn't, I honestly didn't think anything about it. cause it just seemed so normal for all of my friends to go that route. I didn't even think that I was the odd man out. I, I get, I don't know. I just didn't give it a whole lot of thought. Even I used to live with a relative and a female relative and I had a fine boyfriend at the time and

Shun (12:00.327)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (12:09.218)
There were times I would come home and he's sitting there with my female relative and you know, and I asked him right away, you know, how long have you been here? I've been here a couple of hours. So I'm like, uh-uh. So I would tell him, look, if you show up and I'm not here, because you know, back in the day people just showed up at your house. There was no, hey, I'm coming over. So I told him, I said,

Shun (12:33.935)
Right, right. Right.

Shannon (12:38.496)
You come here and I'm not here. You leave. I probably told him maybe two or three times. He continued to do it. After probably the third or fourth time, I'm coming in and he's saying, yeah, because I knew she had a crush on him. I knew it. And after that third or fourth time, you know, I dumped him. I was done with him. You know, I didn't I didn't say anything to her.

Shun (12:47.665)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (12:58.765)
huh.

Shun (13:04.679)
That's right. I know that's right.

Shannon (13:08.69)
Even though I knew she felt whatever she was feeling it was on him too because she wasn't going him exactly Yeah, yeah, she wasn't going sitting up at his house He was coming to mine and sitting there and i'm walking in the door and like dude how long you been here? and so

Shun (13:14.491)
Because I asked you not to come here. Exactly.

Shun (13:21.095)
So, bye.

Shun (13:27.975)
And Shannon, I totally feel what you're saying and though you shouldn't have had to ask him because you should know as a grown person that I don't know how old you are, but I'm sure you're over 21, right, you know, so You know I'm saying so if you know, you would think you've had my company you're of age, right? If you're living with a relative and have a company you're not gonna be 14 So, okay. We've grown people at this point. You feel me? So if I told you that but but why I have to tell you now

Shannon (13:33.677)
Yeah.

Shannon (13:45.964)
Right.

Shannon (13:49.491)
Right, exactly. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Shun (13:55.479)
I had an ex-husband, you know, I told you, that treated me like royalty. And the reason he was a big factor in me maturing and becoming the person I am, because once you've been treated right, you don't have time for that foolishness. And I had a female relative who never, according to him, he didn't have a reason to lie. He never approached him, never said nothing. He said her presence made him uncomfortable as my husband.

Shannon (14:08.268)
Yeah, yeah.

Shannon (14:22.83)
Ooh.

Shun (14:23.847)
because that's your relative, the way they dress, the way they speak. When that person came over, he would exit every single time and go to our bedroom and just retreat and shut the door. It could be two, three hours and did not come out until she left. And so after about a few, you know, I'm like, is it something that I need to know? You know what I mean?

Shannon (14:27.598)
Mmm.

Shannon (14:35.47)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (14:45.902)
Yeah.

Shun (14:46.501)
He was like, no, he's like, she makes me uncomfortable. I'm like, did she say anything? Have she approached you sexually? Cause this person is very, very promiscuous. He said, no, she's never said anything to me. He said, but I wouldn't give her the opportunity out of respect for you. I know what kind of problem that would be. Baby, you think I'm going to let somebody play with me after that? So he taught me how I should be treated. And you know what, Shannon, I had never been treated properly in my eyes. Cause every man I had had cheated on me.

Shannon (14:54.946)
you

Shannon (15:00.449)
I love that. I love that.

Mm-hmm.

Shun (15:15.119)
And it treated me bad. So to have someone treat me like that, I'm like, this is how. So that was the beginning of my process and my stage to change to the woman who I am now. And that's why when my husband and I first got together, it was such a battle when we got back to he said, don't like you. I like the ocean. You like that little girl, but she's gone. This is the grown version of me, son. So take it or leave it. And you know what?

Shannon (15:15.5)
Yeah. Yeah.

Shannon (15:24.536)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Shannon (15:34.476)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Shun (15:42.119)
Hindsight in all the years of past it brought him up to this level because he would have stayed on that little child level as long as I allowed it and we'd have been playing but we still be playing so, you know everything happens for a reason and for anyone that's listening listening real loud and saying now that loud rowdy son, you know, they hear this be like I ain't no way that girl and J girls off the

Shannon (15:46.05)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (15:50.186)
Right. yeah, yeah, for sure.

Shannon (16:02.082)
Hehehehehe

Shun (16:06.551)
It took me years to realize this shit. It took me years to get here. This did not happen overnight. You know what I mean? It took me a long time to realize those chicks can only do what's being allowed by men.

Shannon (16:14.028)
Right.

Shannon (16:20.75)
Exactly. Yes. Yeah.

Shun (16:23.181)
So I told myself you got two choices here girl You can change You can let them have it and remove yourself from the situation if a man is going to continue to do what he do Or you can let that man cheat in peace if you're gonna keep taking him back. Okay, you got two choices But but leave that woman the woman leave those conversations leave them in the past Because it's very ineffective if your man is going to continue to do what he's doing and you're going to continue to allow it That's what I had to realize

Shannon (16:29.474)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Shannon (16:36.066)
Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep.

Shannon (16:43.884)
Yeah.

Shannon (16:51.49)
Yeah. And even in my, you know, my marriage or before I got married, actually, when my husband and I were still dating, anyone that knows him, they know he's, total opposite of me. You know, he loves to the center of attention. And so he likes getting attention and whenever he get any female attention, he ate it up. I don't know if you ever remember on good times, whenever James would.

do that little laugh when it comes to like a pretty woman that, hey, hey, hey. Yeah. So that was my husband. Well, my boyfriend at the time. And I would just lay into him. I'm like, look, either you with me or you out here seeking to be the center of attention with.

Shun (17:24.387)
And Floor would do it and then the one day Flo called me. That one, I think that was one of my favorite episodes. Exactly.

Shun (17:45.831)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (17:50.126)
every female in the room. I said, you and we broke up a few times because it's like he didn't get it. He's like, I'm not doing anything, but I'm not doing it. You are to me. That's disrespect. If a pretty woman comes to you, you gotta be like James Evans and he all in a face and all of that. I'm like, nah, you can't be with me.

Shun (17:52.167)
That's right.

Shun (18:12.999)
And and the thing about that is Shannon it has nothing to do with who we are as women has been like my thing is if you're still Seeking attention from the streets be with me for the streets, baby Because that means you're not I'm not giving you what you need and you're free to go That's it. That's all you're free to go because I am a very and ain't nobody got to tell me this baby I'm not asking. I'm a very attractive woman. I handle my business, you know, I try my best to stay in shape, you know, I lost a little bit

Shannon (18:20.263)
Exactly.

Shannon (18:24.695)
Mm-hmm, exactly.

Mm-hmm, that's right, free to go, free to go.

Shannon (18:37.358)
you

Mm-hmm.

Shun (18:42.491)
But I try my best to stay in shape. You know, I let it go a couple of times, but I try to keep it roped in. But for the most part, men hit on me all day, every day. That doesn't excite me because my husband does enough to keep my attention. And I expect the same from him. So when you are here, that means there's something about them. I ain't giving you what you need, baby. You're free to go. And ain't nobody going to ever change my mind about that. You know what I'm saying? No one will ever change my mind about that. If you're seeking the attention of other women,

Shannon (18:46.85)
Yeah, yeah.

Right. Free to go. Right. Yep.

Shun (19:12.007)
You need to be seen or hurt then baby I ain't doing enough for you because guess what when you're really roped in when you really when you Locked in as these young folks to say, baby. I don't care who walk in the room Then zell can walk in the room method man can walk in the room and these Barack Obama can one do some fine men But mine is finer in my eyes. So how you doing brother? I like the way you sing a Barack. I love the way you ran this country That's all they're getting out of me you get nothing else until

Shannon (19:14.283)
And, mm-hmm.

Shannon (19:20.612)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (19:24.536)
That's Right. Nothing.

Shun (19:40.907)
He's not giving me what I want and if i'm giving those men anything else That means i'm no longer happy at home and it's time to go. That's just the way I look at it You know what i'm saying? But I had to change my ways because if not, it was going to be some slow singing and flower bringing I don't do the disrespect because These women have no self-respect. They will play second third fourth 20th Just to say i'm with him. she looks so happy. I slept with him

Shannon (19:47.074)
That's right. Mm Yeah. Yeah.

Shannon (19:57.645)
Right.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Shun (20:09.531)
They don't mind Shannon. So either you gonna have some standards or I'm leaving because some of these women don't have any You know what I'm saying? And it's up to that man to see to it that you're number one ladies Or it's up to that man as the young folks call it up You should be the only one he engages with you know It's up to him to make sure you're not the side or the main think is lotto You need to be the only one he entertains. So if you got young ladies, listen, I'm gonna put it in the term y'all can understand. Okay?

Shannon (20:14.483)
Exactly. They don't. Yep, they don't.

Shannon (20:27.982)
you

Shannon (20:35.621)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (20:38.979)
You don't need to be I know i'm gonna manage it. No, you don't need to be at any number You need to be the chick Okay, and that keeps down any confusion And if he can't put you in that place in his life, it should be no place at all now i'm gonna come back To betty right era women were a little different back then, you know, so I understand, know heck I was different because of my granny and you know them them bras was tough honey because they took some stuff shannon, okay me

Shannon (20:44.109)
right.

Mm-hmm.

Shannon (20:52.526)
That's right.

Shannon (20:56.536)
Ha ha ha ha.

Shannon (21:07.308)
Yes they did.

Shun (21:09.191)
God brought me to the right area that one for me, but honey that was paying bills and no no, no We play mortgages around here, baby. We pay card notes. We pay student loans. We buy kids school clothes, too I promise you don't get in my face talk about as long as you bring the check home you and your check and get on okay Reside elsewhere baby reside elsewhere because I bet you I buses my 40 plus with the 5,000 businesses I've run on the side. So no, no, no, you don't you don't get to do that You you shouldn't get to do that at all

Shannon (21:12.462)
Hmm.

Shannon (21:17.858)
and

Shannon (21:25.768)
Mm-mm, that's right, that's right.

Shannon (21:35.509)
huh.

Shun (21:39.089)
But I got to give them grace back then and understand, you know, the men brought the bacon home. So they kind of made the rules and I still believe in the head of household. Never ever negate what the word of God says, ladies. That's not what we're saying. But in all of those words, it will tell you what we're telling you. You are the queen. You should come first. There's nothing we're saying here that can't be found in God's word. Nothing at all.

Shannon (21:39.489)
Right.

Shannon (21:50.915)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (21:59.158)
That's right. Exactly.

Shun (22:04.678)
And Shannon, that's all I got on this subject. Got anything else you want to add to it?

Shannon (22:08.3)
That's all I got. Good conversation.

Shun (22:10.711)
All right. Well, family It was a good conversation and ladies. I really hope you understand and we're to leave you guys with this It is so simple. The wrap-up tonight is real simple and don't let anyone complicate this for you And I can only make this statement with so much authority because I know what i'm about to say is nothing but the truth Woman to woman conversation should never happen if you're dealing with a real man That's it

Shannon (22:40.194)
That's it. Love it. Alright. Okay. Here we go.

Shun (22:41.713)
That's All right. So our next segment.

Shun (22:52.967)
Alrighty, so we've come to our Sweet Little Lies segment. Tonight's Sweet Little Lies does not have anything to do with relationships. It's something totally off topic, but hey, it's the Sweet Little Lie that came in for this week, so we're gonna read it. Okay, so this one reads, I'm from college. I'm a college student that lives in a different state. I have dropped out of school and my parents don't know it yet.

Shannon (23:01.688)
Ha ha ha ha.

you

Shun (23:21.209)
I'm still accepting tuition money and living off of it because I'm an only child and I don't know how to tell them I'm too ashamed to go home. I Don't know what to do Lord Jesus Well again, no response is required, you know, but I feel as a parent. I would like to encourage you to come clean Make it you know make a game plan for yourself for your future, you know, so you'll go, you know

Go sit down with your parents and you'll feel better saying, hey, I'm not in school, but this is what I've decided to do. As a parent, I would want to know that, Shanna, you know I'm saying? And I would welcome my child home with open arms because your life decisions are yours, you know? But don't continue to take their money because I think that could quite possibly change the dynamics of your relationship. Just my opinion. What do you think, Shanna?

Shannon (23:57.122)
Yeah, yeah.

Shannon (24:03.662)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (24:12.194)
Right. Yeah, I totally agree.

Shun (24:17.263)
I mean if that was your son would you want to know?

Shannon (24:20.548)
most definitely I would want to know. And like you, would take them up, I would say, come on home, know, hey, that's not working for you, it's okay. I know fathers sometimes feel a little differently when it comes to, you know, stuff like that, but most, most mothers, at least the ones I know would, you know, say, hey, let's, let's get on another path.

Shun (24:32.199)
That's right.

Shun (24:40.444)
Right.

Shannon (24:48.782)
because you at least need to help them forward some type of future plan, something, because this thing on, you know, work out in the long run. So you got to try to get them to get back into your line of sight so you can help get them on the path to a future so that they were able to support and sustain themselves, you know.

Shun (24:56.668)
Right.

Shun (25:13.904)
Right, well.

Shannon (25:18.155)
as they grow older.

Shun (25:18.555)
Well, absolutely. Whoever you are, the writer, again, we're not here to give opinions. We are not here to judge you. We ask you guys to send in these sweet little lies to get off your chest. So if that's what you just wanted to do, then hey, we read it for you, it's off your chest. But if you happen to want to try and get this thing together and redirect it, we'll be praying for you. And you know, it all works out in the end. Trust me, as mad as we get as parents, we're always there forgiving and loving.

Shannon (25:46.176)
Yeah, yeah, right.

Shun (25:47.097)
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Shannon (26:03.886)
All right, so on to our last segment. And it's usually a fictional family that we feel, fire, or forget, but this is a real family. I don't know how many of you all watch Love and Marriage Huntsville, but I thought Melanie and Martell Holt would be appropriate for this segment because...

If anyone's ever watched the show from the beginning, you know, he was cheating, cheating, cheating, and come to find out after, you know, several, maybe after the first or second season, she kind of knew all along or didn't know all along about this other woman. And eventually, because he kept going back between back and forth between her and this other woman, the other woman had a baby.

Shun (26:55.303)
Hmm.

Shannon (26:56.07)
And yeah, and so now they're her and Martell are divorced. But my thing is this, you know, in, in context of what we're talking about tonight, she allowed him to keep disrespecting her, in my opinion, because he kept going back and forth between her and this side piece, side chick or whatever where she was the wife.

So even though this isn't a fictional family They're a real family, but I would say I would have to not fire them because they are real family but forget them, you know because There was a lot to me that well from the outside looking in everyone, you know has an opinion about real people, but If you're gonna allow that to go on over and over or you

Maybe she believed it was fixed at one point, but if you watch the show, like I said, you would come to see that she knew a lot that was going on. And so when the woman ended up getting pregnant and all of that, you're not really that shocked. You're like, my God, you you should have got out, you know, long ago. Not that you would ever tell anyone to end their marriage, but you know, the onus would have been on her too.

Shun (28:17.819)
Right.

Shannon (28:24.206)
say, hey, he's not changing. If someone does the same thing over and over more than once, like I said, with that boyfriend, with my relative, I gave him like two or three warnings. And when he was still sitting there when I walked in, I'm like, I'm out, you're done. So I'm saying I'm forgetting the hosts this week. What do you think?

Shun (28:34.6)
Mm-hmm can say to do it. Yeah

Shun (28:48.039)
Well, unfortunately, Shannon, because I've been in that situation, I'm going to fill them. Because sometimes when you're in it, it's not easy to get out. Now, knew that, know, with Jamila, I knew there was another relationship and I kept going back and forth. I will say this though, I did know I didn't have the ability to get pregnant. That's all in my book, you know. So that was never a thing that I thought could ever be. But even if it wasn't a baby.

Shannon (28:53.515)
Okay.

Shannon (29:08.546)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Shannon (29:12.514)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (29:14.477)
I had plenty of opportunities to get out of that situation because I, you much as he said, we not together old book. wasn't just her. Then it continued to be other women. Cause I'm going to tell you something when people are disrespectful, when they're cheaters, trust me, it's just not one other person. just happened to fall in love with it's there in more. It's there in more. So unfortunately I'm not feeling it because I think is right. I'm feeling it because in that situation and being in love, I didn't have the ability to take myself out of it because I was in love.

Shannon (29:32.592)
Okay, yeah, yeah.

Shannon (29:42.871)
Gotcha.

Shun (29:44.207)
And sometimes the heart wants what the heart wants, you

Shannon (29:47.123)
Yeah, yeah. Okay, and I can see that. I guess, you know, especially when you have children and you really want your marriage to work. I can see that.

Shun (29:51.855)
Yeah, yeah.

Shun (29:58.567)
I wasn't in a marriage. just was, it was just, I was a side piece, honey. If you get right down to it, I might not want to call myself that because I'm going to say something. He spent more time with me than her. But when it was family events, when it was family events and when it was time to show off, when it was time for, he was there. Now my family events, he was with me, but for his family events, I was not with him. So you can call it what you want or you can act dumb.

Shannon (30:02.654)
Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. okay. Mm-hmm.

Shannon (30:16.042)
Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Shun (30:23.525)
I was a side piece. Okay. And because I love them, I continue to allow myself to stay in that situation. Cause again, sometimes when you're young and unlearned, those are the things that happen. But I want to say this really quick, Shannon, before we wrap up the entire show for our wrapped up. When we talk about changing and not allowing stuff now in some things we're going to have to forgive guys, you know, it happens. We're human.

Shannon (30:45.588)
Mm-hmm. yeah. Yeah.

Shun (30:47.533)
Say that now let's reverse that and I know this is off course, but I want to make this clear Shanna So we don't leave anybody confused If that husband messed around and went out of town You know made a bad decision the girl got pregnant and now we got to deal with this Those are the kind of things sometimes as people are human. We got to sit down and say we're going to deal with this You know what i'm saying? It's the constant bad choices that we're talking about It's constantly stepping to women because your man is stepping out

Shannon (30:54.083)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (31:12.635)
So I did I want to leave that little disclaimer so we don't confuse anyone especially young people trying to get it right They go around leave everybody because a shauna shannon said baby. We're not having it We we don't want to leave you like that because if that was the case We couldn't tell you all these stories if we had that much sense. We couldn't tell you all these stories. We messed up a lot We got played a lot. I can't say we I got played a lot So I don't know what you know, so I we're just trying to avoid that and I want to really make that clear so

Shannon (31:16.535)
Right.

Shannon (31:20.846)
That's right, that's right.

Shannon (31:29.262)
That's true. Mm-hmm. A lot. did. Yes. Yep. Yeah.

Shun (31:42.439)
If you and your significant other or husband, whoever, y'all have something y'all need to forgive, sit down and talk about it. But constant decisions are not mistakes, they're choices. And they're for the streets. And my forest gum voice, that's all I'm gonna say about that. I'm done, Shannon.

Shannon (31:50.742)
Right.

Shannon (31:55.918)
their choices. Mm-hmm. All right. Well, that is our show for tonight. Thank you all for listening around the globe. We really appreciate your loyalty and we enjoy our Thursday nights for that very reason. So until next week.

Shun (32:19.789)
Absolutely.

Shun (32:26.649)
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