Wifey and Baby Mama

Shun (00:36.726)
Hey, I'm Shawn.

Shannon (00:38.481)
I am standing.

Shun (00:40.698)
We are the host of wifey and baby mama. Welcome to Thursday night family We are honored to be back with you yet another week. Yes and This week. Yes in this week's episode is titled who's running the show We're gonna discuss how parents allow their children to guilt them into the single life or just you know Let them be the boss of who they're gonna date and we're gonna tell you why there's a definite no-no and we're gonna get into some examples of

Shannon (00:46.159)
Yeah.

Shannon (00:50.593)
Yes, we are.

Shun (01:09.814)
how we can end up saying, my mistake went as far too late and how no one is ever good enough. So, oh yeah, we're gonna get into it. But first, Shanna, can we tell them how France has given it up, girl? Ha ha ha.

Shannon (01:13.656)
This is.

Shannon (01:21.668)
Oh my gosh, I mean we talked about them last week, but this week it's even more. I don't know who's over there, but we appreciate you all so much. The numbers you've taken over. I think I might have mentioned this last week, but the UK was the highest outside of the US. Of course, US is number one. And then the UK has held that second spot for, you know, since we've been doing this podcast. But now France is.

Shun (01:30.23)
Hehehehe

Shannon (01:49.964)
their numbers are even greater than what the UK was. So even when they were in the number two spot and every day is just growing and I'm amazed. Not to discredit or disregard all the other countries because we are in 23 countries right now. So I have to give, yeah, I know. Holla, holla. So I have to give it to all the countries around the world that feel like

Shun (02:08.526)
Ah, love.

Shun (02:17.778)
every single one of you but France is doing the thing Thank you friends, but let me tell you something us. I know one thing. Thank you friends for us I bet you I bet you are better not y'all better come on But friends if y'all want to keep being faithful then hey go pay the number one spots belong to whoever the number one spot Belong to so let's go

Shannon (02:19.432)
Yeah, that feel like we have something to say. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. Ha, ha, ha.

Shannon (02:34.076)
Yeah, yeah, right exactly, exactly.

Shun (02:41.586)
All right, so we just had to give you guys a quick shout-out cuz like she said every single day That's right. And that's thing is amazing, you know, cuz I mean this we got some family and friends We don't know about but thank you. Anyways, we love you And we're gonna get into it. So Tonight's topic who's running the show is a topic that is vital to dating and marriage and blended families and just family alone You know So we're gonna get into some do's and don'ts that will keep you from saying my mistake later on down the line Like I said, we love our guests, you know

Shannon (02:48.024)
time.

Shannon (02:53.107)
Yeah.

I'm right.

Shun (03:10.954)
We wish we had Lexi back to break it down because we always invite extra people to give us a fresh point You know to try to get you away from Shannon and I's walls of love and war relationship, but tonight It's just us we are gonna be solo so We can keep you engaged and um Shannon, I don't know how we gonna do this thing. I really I could have really been the subject I'm saying I could have been the test subject of tonight show real easily girl if I didn't get myself together Oh, yeah, because my kids were straight up

Shannon (03:13.996)
Hehehe

Shannon (03:19.78)
Yes.

Shannon (03:35.75)
Oh really?

Shun (03:39.85)
like against it when my husband and I started back dating and I can and I can always admit when I when I tell this story is because It was their world before we met, you know You got to just keep it real and I always felt like I worked too much. I always say that So it was my guilt. You know what i'm saying that let them they literally read the relationship like they let it I was the mom. I was a financial provider, but they made the decisions

Shannon (03:43.125)
Oh wow.

Shannon (03:53.033)
Yeah.

Shannon (03:58.428)
Right.

Yeah.

Shun (04:05.694)
It was because I really felt guilty Shannon because of my failed relationships and you know my bad choice and partners So, you know, I let them have at it. But when he came along he was like, nah, I know kids running me And you know slowly I had to just like realize like, okay, he's right But even after we were married, I still found myself Chana I still found myself in the beginning trying to negotiate like well Can we meet in the middle because before you got here we did that and he looked at

Shannon (04:11.649)
Yeah.

Shannon (04:18.755)
Hehe

Shannon (04:32.032)
Right.

Shun (04:33.41)
He said, listen, I'm not negotiating with no kids. Basically, like get these little terrorists out of here. But, and so, sooner or later, you know, the adult in me, Shannon gave in and I had to join him in saying that we run this house. You know what I'm saying? We pay the bills, we're the head. He's the head actually, you know, and then here I am. And the kids really had no saying that. Of course, we value their opinion and all, but when it came right down to it, he was right. Like, I'm not negotiating with them. Like, what are they?

Shannon (04:38.12)
Yes. Of course, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.

Shannon (04:57.752)
Oh yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.

Shun (05:02.994)
And I'm telling you, it caused some cold shoulders. They ganged up on me. I cried sometimes, but girl, eventually the adult, yeah, the adult in me had to win. So parents, we have to realize, especially single parents, especially when we've been at it a while, our kids do become like our friends and they do become like our confidants. But when it comes to our love life, to be honest with you, kids have no place in that arena.

Shannon (05:09.589)
Oh, I'm sure.

Shannon (05:28.544)
Right. And I know so many single women like I was, you know, with a son. If you're a woman with a son, they're usually overprotective and they're, you know, hating on everyone. Luckily, I didn't have that. I don't know why. I don't know if I should be offended that my son, you know, wasn't trying to be my protector as far as, you know, warding off guys or whatever. He, his concern was, you know,

Shun (05:53.887)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (05:56.072)
is my mom gonna be taken care of when I'm gone. So he was always encouraging me to go date and go find someone, I don't want you to be alone. Like when he went off to school, he went all the way to Maine, from Charlotte to Maine. And so at the very tip of the country too, not just, not Portland, Maine, but Fort Kent. And yeah, and he was so concerned. I mean, it just worried him that

Shun (06:17.614)
Wow.

Shannon (06:25.34)
I was gonna be alone. And he's like, mom, I just really wish you had someone. So I don't have the experiences that a lot of my other friends, cause I can tell you so many stories of my other friends who were single moms with a son, where the son would get in physical altercations with the man. You know, there was always drama around the son and whoever the woman was trying to date. And...

one woman that I know. She's single to this day. Her son is grown now. He's living his best life, married with kids or whatever, but she's alone because he rules everything that happened in the house, or she allowed him, I should say. She allowed her son when he was 10, 11, 12, you know, teenager, he would get him physical altercations with whoever she was dating, her boyfriend or whatever. And now here...

Today, she's alone. She's all alone, where he's building his family and his life and doesn't see anything wrong with his mom being alone. Yeah, I know. I'm lucky that my son was a lot, I mean, he looked out for me in the sense where he really felt that I shouldn't be alone in life. So you don't...

Shun (07:33.666)
Wow.

Shannon (07:51.704)
see a lot of that because most boys, like I said, with single moms, they don't want their mom dating anybody. They don't want to see it.

Shun (08:00.866)
Right Well, I can't say this shannon when I hear you speak about the sons I can't say that all of my kids were daughters on top of that, right? So I did not have my son until my husband and I were married and then back in our place So I i'm very grateful because I can see even his even though his father is his father I can see his possessiveness of me right now, right? I couldn't imagine like if his father wasn't around and then he came later on

Shannon (08:10.152)
Yeah, yeah.

Shannon (08:20.798)
Hehehehe

How?

Shun (08:28.794)
I think that would probably be a total different story for me. Now I will probably eventually do what I did with my girls and say, Hey, you know, I got to be an adult to keep from saying, you know, my mistake later on because I allowed my kids to keep me from happiness. But I can see how some women allow that to happen. And we are trying to deter that ladies. If you have sons, please don't allow that to happen. Because just like you said, and it sounds like you said like now he lived in his best life. Like now he got some nerves, but that wasn't on that kid though. That was on that mom, Shannon.

Shannon (08:38.576)
Bye.

Shannon (08:48.416)
Right.

Shannon (08:53.28)
Hehehehehehe

Shun (08:57.598)
So, I mean, it does seem kind of messed up that now he's married with kids and he's doing his thing, but that really was on the mom though. So, you know, and you know what? Later on, I bet she probably, and I bet she sometimes look at him like, wow, like you over there with your family and look at me. So that's what we're trying to deter right now, women, by letting you know. That's not the way to go. That, your kids shouldn't be running the show when it comes to your love life.

Shannon (08:57.608)
Yeah, it definitely was. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Shannon (09:11.83)
Right.

Shannon (09:18.625)
Yeah.

Shannon (09:23.188)
They should not, they should not, and Sean, you mentioned, you know, feeling guilt or whatever, and that's natural. I get that, you know, because you were doing all these things by yourself and then here comes, you know, the male figure and he wants to change everything. And you're like, okay, I can't, you know, the struggle and the pushing pull, like which way do I go? Which way do I go?

Shun (09:48.161)
Uh huh.

Shannon (09:51.056)
And I'm glad that you were able to recognize, hey, my husband does come first. I love my kids.

Shun (09:59.646)
And and but guess what though that took some work, you know, I'll be the first to admit it didn't just you know Didn't just oh, I'm married now. No, especially and so when you're single for a while with kids You know, that's it's a bond But it should not be a commitment. You know, you're keeping the commitments to your partner your commitments to your partner Parenting has his own commitment his own lane, but it has nowhere and when it comes to love and relationship that that's not it

Shannon (10:04.102)
Oh yeah.

Shannon (10:14.408)
Yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah.

Shannon (10:28.422)
Yeah.

Shun (10:28.838)
So now, go ahead, I'm sorry.

Shannon (10:31.88)
Oh, I was going to go back on single mothers with sons too. You know, I've witnessed a lot from different friends and coworkers and, you know, a lot of these women, they tend to look at their son as the man of the house. He's not, your son is not the man of the house. He's not running anything. He is not someone you need to submit yourself to.

as we talked about a couple of weeks ago about submission, you don't submit yourself to your child. And I've seen that so many times, and I don't understand, I don't know where that comes from. Like for example, I have a friend that if she cooks a meal and her eight-year-old doesn't want it after she's cooked it,

Shun (11:00.716)
No.

Shun (11:06.155)
Absolutely not.

Shannon (11:27.672)
and decides he wants McDonald's or whatever, she will drop what she's doing and go run and get that for him. And it's like, what kind of message are you sending to your child just because you feel some type of way, guilt, where does that guilt come from? Let that go because you don't understand the harm that you're doing to that child because in the real world, it's not gonna operate that way. No one's gonna drop what they're doing, especially when he gets married.

Shun (11:38.67)
Absolutely correct.

Shannon (11:57.748)
and his wife has cooked a meal and he decides, oh, I don't want that, you know, immediately there's going to be major drama because he's not going to drop typically, depending on the woman, but nine times out of ten, she's not going to drop what she's doing or what she's created for you and go run out and get you something else or whatever. So these moms sending these wrong messages to these...

Shun (12:09.57)
Right.

Shannon (12:22.924)
children and not just boys. I'm bringing up boys because I see it a lot with my single. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

Shun (12:25.994)
And I was gonna and I was gonna I was waiting for you to finish so I can jump in Oh, no, ma'am. I just said mine were girls and that's how they had me for a while and I'm not I'm not Shame to admit it. But now that it's happened I Can tell you that I did it and I can tell you that it was totally wrong So that's why we get on here. We try to like I said give you our war stories. I love in war stories because

Shannon (12:39.54)
Yeah. Right.

Shannon (12:48.404)
Yeah.

Shun (12:49.942)
Just because I did it doesn't mean it was right and it didn't work for me. So you try to deter other people from going down that road and saying my mistake later on. My daughter, my kids were all daughters until my ex-husband and I remarried. But let me tell you this, the oldest daughter ran me. I was her girl. I worked for her because her father was my first love because he was gone and out of the picture for all those years because I felt guilty that she didn't have her father.

Shannon (13:09.28)
Hehehehe

Shun (13:17.442)
So even when the other two children came along, like I still belonged to her. So she would now tell me and the other two what to do too. So she ran the house. So when her father came back, even though it's her father, she was like, oh hell no, I don't care who daddy he is. I don't want that. I want those shoes. I want this car. I'm gonna tell you, we literally almost called it quits, for her high school graduation because we agreed to buy her a car.

Shannon (13:24.492)
So, yeah, yeah.

Shannon (13:31.76)
Yes. Hehehehehehe.

Shun (13:45.226)
He sent the money we agreed on a Honda Civic. I bought the girl a BMW, okay?

Shannon (13:50.64)
Oh my gosh, Sean.

Shun (13:52.806)
I know at 16 years old her father was a limit, but I'm gonna I'm gonna justify myself It was only a few more thousand than not than the Honda and I figured you know, what's the plus? So, you know what's the word and it wasn't a note to it, you know was paid It was an older one, but it had so many little girl. I tried to justify every which way but loose He was not having it and he said if you're gonna do those type of things then you need to be alone because

Shannon (13:57.56)
I'm sure.

Shannon (14:03.608)
I'm sorry.

Shannon (14:10.325)
Yeah.

Shannon (14:16.993)
Yeah.

Shun (14:20.966)
You're not giving her anything to aspire to What is her husband? He said what is her husband supposed to buy her for her? 25th, you know an anniversary if you're buying her bmw's at 16. Oh my god, that's on them to figure out But when I thought about it shannon, I was dead Okay, one I did I went against his will and two She's completely and utterly ridiculously spoiled and I and I played a major part in that and guess what coming down almost ruined

Shannon (14:34.445)
Hehe

Right, right.

Yeah.

Shannon (14:46.103)
Yeah.

Shun (14:50.854)
Our relationship mother and daughter because now I got to tell you no and not get these things And the truth is I shouldn't have been doing it in the first place. You get what i'm saying We're fine. Now it took a lot of counseling and praying. We're good now and that's perfect But she looked at it as you betrayed me like before this man came along. I got whatever I wanted So that also put a strain on her and her father's relationship And the truth is it was all me So parents, please understand

Shannon (14:59.764)
Yeah.

Shannon (15:11.893)
Right.

Shannon (15:18.316)
Yeah, and we feel, yeah, yes, yeah. And we do both, I guess, you and I both, because we share that common denominator. So with my son, you do feel some guilt. You're like, okay, his dad's not here, so you wanna do these extra stuff to make up for him not having the father. But now that my son's an adult and he talks to me about,

Shun (15:20.758)
Kids have their place. It's not at the head of your house. It's not.

Shun (15:37.198)
Mm-hmm That's right

Shannon (15:47.284)
you know, childhood and all that. None of what I did matters to him because it did not make up for him not having his dad. And he tells me this now. He's like, you could have bought me, you know, a trip around the world or whatever. You could have given me a million dollars, but all I wanted was my dad. And I'm like, wow, you don't see that, you know, when you're raising, you know, the child alone. Yeah, yeah.

Shun (15:54.922)
As the truth.

Shun (16:05.442)
Hmm.

Shun (16:13.374)
child alone. But the truth is though, Shannon, you and I going through these things are examples for young mothers or couples who don't even have kids before they even get started to tell them the right way to do it. Like I appreciate this platform so much because it gives us so much insight, right? And it keeps people from walking in your shoes. And trust me, it's still going to be people that walk in these shoes. And that's okay. We can't save everybody. But

Shannon (16:24.256)
with it.

Yeah.

Shannon (16:31.184)
Yeah.

Shannon (16:38.676)
Oh yeah, yeah. Right.

Shun (16:42.422)
But our mission is to just try to save as many people as we can. So guys, we're telling you, imploring you, don't do it. All we can give is advice and our experience. We're not counselors. We can't say that enough. We're not professional doctors. But let me tell you something. Life can teach you something that books can't. And trust me, life has taught us a lot of things that books cannot.

Shannon (16:50.996)
Yeah, yeah, don't. Right. Exactly. No, no.

That's true. It sure has. Yeah.

Shun (17:07.418)
And on this show, we're gonna give you a lot of advice. You can buy the parenting manuals you like. You can go out to the group sessions you like. But until someone's walked in those shoes, trust me, it's nothing like the real thing, baby. Nothing like it.

Shannon (17:14.464)
Heheheheheheh

Shannon (17:21.085)
Yeah, nothing like it, right? And giving into guilt. Yes, it might make you feel better, but ultimately you got to think of what kind of harm. Exactly. Remember to put your children first, people. And a lot of us didn't do that. You know, I was a young mother, you know, of course I wasn't thinking about anybody but me. But if I can help someone, if I can.

Shun (17:30.635)
not going to benefit that child at all.

Mm-hmm.

Shun (17:47.01)
So we did the things. Yeah, so you and I did things that make us feel better as moms. So when she says, put your children first, I wanna make that clear. She's not saying put them first in choosing relationship. I think what you're saying, Shannon, is put them first and saying, is what I'm doing gonna help her harm these kids? And staying single, walking around with your head scarf on, you know, in your house shoes and holes in your gown, so you don't attract the man.

Shannon (17:50.309)
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Only thinking about us. That's right. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Only thinking about us. That's right. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly.

Shannon (18:07.029)
Exactly.

Shannon (18:14.758)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. It's not the answer. Yeah, yeah. Right. And if you're, exactly. And if you're looking at your, like I hate it when I hear women saying, oh, he's the little man, he's the man in the house, he's the little man. You know, that, to me, that is not even cute.

Shun (18:15.47)
because your children ain't comfortable because they want you to themselves is not the answer, my people. That's not the answer. Live your best life. Give your children the best life you can.

Shannon (18:41.56)
You know don't say that even if you're joking or whatever that is not the man of the house even in a joking manner That is your child

Shun (18:48.578)
Because you know what I just learned in the last few years Shannon that our words have power And and I know that I mean and like I said, I'm guilty your words have power So even in a joking way, like you said, it's not cute. We're not you're not doing it I'm sure to manifest that they're gonna be the man of the house that you'll never have a man But words have ways of manifesting themselves because when you put that stuff out to the universe The wrong party here is it trust me and it can make it a reality. So

Shannon (18:53.496)
Oh yes.

Shannon (18:58.942)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (19:03.544)
Bye.

Shannon (19:13.463)
Yep.

Shun (19:18.222)
I totally get what you're saying. We have to be careful to guard these kids. Now, um, I don't know. I think that's about all that I had to say as far as who's running the show. And we talked about the not getting married thing and guilt and, you know, up until your kids. But it, is it anything else you want to add? Chana before we, I'm gonna wrap it up. So, um,

Shannon (19:18.632)
Yeah, yeah.

Shannon (19:24.19)
Right.

Shannon (19:38.76)
No, that's it.

wrap it up

Shun (19:44.374)
So basically all the things we said here comes down to this peeps Don't allow your children's hang-ups to cost you your happiness or to be lonely your whole life sure They're you know their opinion their well-being Happiness and their safety it matters But don't let them guilt you into something that will never be and if you're not with the biological mom or dad because that's what? A lot of kids like to do you know I want my mom and dad here. It's probably over for a good reason you know

Shannon (20:00.106)
Yes.

Shun (20:12.502)
And they may not understand that as children, but that's not a reason for you to live unhappy or in shame. Whatever partners you picked in the past, whatever relationship that had failed, that's where they should be. Move on, take care of your babies the best you can, but make sure you stay in control of your show and your love life. And let the babies in their place to be babies. All right.

Shannon (20:12.696)
Right.

Shannon (20:33.376)
That's right. Yes, yes.

Shun (20:39.414)
So we're going to ready to invite the audience a little while.

Shannon (20:40.073)
Alright.

All right, audience invite.

Shun (20:46.902)
audience invites Last week's song was blended family That's what we do for love and the artist was Alicia Keys featuring ASAP Rocky So, you know what to do audience after the show tomorrow over the weekend whenever Listen to the song in its entirety and add some more flavor to your ear. I want you to check it out Shannon Have you ever heard that one? Yes, I love that song. So yeah, so last week

Shannon (20:59.98)
Oh.

Shannon (21:10.485)
Yes, yes, I have.

Shun (21:14.678)
Last week's topic was parents don't make your kids work overtime. So we talked about I thought that was a good tie-in blended families You know, that's what we do for love. Sometimes we do things we don't want to do but we do we gotta do Okay So if you're feeling it after you listen to the song if you're feeling that song or if you guess tonight songs from the lines We dropped doing the arm what I dropped during the episode hit us up at wifey and baby mama at gmail.com That's wifey and baby mama at gmail.com and also really quick

Shannon (21:18.779)
Thank you.

Shannon (21:27.267)
Right.

Shun (21:43.57)
If you have any ideas or topics you would like to discuss, email us also at wife You can hit us up there and we'll definitely get it on. We'll see how we can work it out, write it out for you, and give you a shout out. And it's all to you, baby mama. It's all you.

Shannon (21:57.98)
Yeah, yeah. So, well, before we go into the fictional family, but yeah, so, you know, we do get feedback from folks that, you know, they like our topics, but then they have some ideas. And they may tell me in passing, of course, if you don't write it down for me, I'm not going to remember. So, like Sean said, definitely send it to our Gmail.

Shun (22:17.21)
It didn't happen.

Shannon (22:26.552)
so that we can get it on the agenda and put it in the lineup for a future show. Because we welcome your feedback and some of you have been so great with giving feedback. And Sean, we haven't had a bunch of negative feedback so far this season. So we must be improving.

Shun (22:45.938)
That's a good thing. Hey baby, practice makes perfect, honey. We getting there, we getting there. But let me say something else too Shannon, with your topics. Sometimes Shannon people are ashamed to talk about this stuff. Sometimes people don't wanna associate with it. Sometimes they don't wanna, I think that was a lot of pushback with the red line. You know, we would ask, like give us a name or a city. It wasn't to shame anyone, we just wanted to give you a shout out. So with this, you don't have to give us anything.

Shannon (22:54.358)
Yes.

Shannon (23:01.024)
That's true. Yeah.

Shannon (23:06.708)
Right.

Shannon (23:12.113)
Yeah.

Shun (23:14.594)
Just say, hey, what do you think about this topic? What do you think about this subject? And we'll break it down for you. So we're here for it. So if you don't wanna talk about it, baby, we'll talk about it. We're here for it. We'll do, y'all know I love to run this mouth. So we'll hit us up.

Shannon (23:14.974)
That's right.

Mm-hmm.

Right, yeah.

So, there we go.

Oh yeah, yeah. And now that you say that as well, we love our guests and it would be great if someone from one of our other countries are listening to us and decide they wanna come on as a guest. Hit us up for that too. We don't know what's going on. Right, exactly, yeah. We don't know what's going on in France and the UK and all these other places. I don't know if it's ex-pack.

Shun (23:47.507)
wife we'll put it down, honey. Email us.

Shannon (23:57.404)
listening to us or if it's, you know, the Native people from these countries listening to us. But if you, apparently you identify with something that we're saying. And you know, we get the, we can't believe you guys are doing this all the time to this day. And we've been doing this now almost a year. Well, not quite a year. I know. Yeah, April be a year.

Shun (24:19.886)
I can't believe it. April will be a year, girl. Oh my God.

Shannon (24:24.156)
And we still get the, I can't believe you guys are doing this, you know, and they can't believe our relationships. So if you're in another country and you're doing something similar or you have a similar type of bond with your wifey and baby mamas, yes, exactly. Yeah, yeah, hit us up. We would.

Shun (24:41.614)
What y'all wifey and baby mamas doing in France, United Kingdom, Spain? Tell us about it, Brazil, we want to hear it. And we would love to have you on.

Shannon (24:52.916)
Exactly. We would love to have you on if you want to come on and talk to us. We're here for it. Here for it. All right. So now on to the fictional family I'm feeling. And tonight, and my voice is going, you guys, I'm sure you can probably hear it tonight. I have just a slight cold, nothing serious, no COVID flu or RSV, nothing like that. But

Shun (24:59.63)
Absolutely.

Shun (25:20.317)
It's going around too.

Shannon (25:21.84)
I know it is not mocking the people who have all those things though. Um, but mine is just a coat. Oh yeah. Yes. The flu. Yeah.

Shun (25:26.15)
My husband just had it so it was terrible. So be thankful you don't have it. You're the blue Yeah, i'm in the hospital type blue. So yeah Take care of yourself, baby mama. This is one day i'm happy. We're not close to each other I love you though boo, but keep that I just I just fought through that but i'm sorry go ahead I know that's no No, that's right know that's right

Shannon (25:35.084)
Oh my gosh, yeah, that's serious. Yeah.

Shannon (25:43.904)
I know I know I know even my husband he's blowing kisses at me. I'm like, what do you mean you're blowing? He said he said don't come near me. He said don't come near me So here we go the fictional family I'm filling this week is the Harrison's from the movie stepmom Starring Julia Roberts Susan Sarandon and Ed Harris. I don't know

you've seen that Sean but it's an old movie from the 90s oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah yes so the scene I'm going to talk about tonight is the scene where um Julia who's Isabel bought a puppy trying to win over Anna and Ben or the kids trying to win over the kids and um and she says to

Shun (26:12.474)
Love it. One of my favorite tearjerkers. Oh my god Oh

Shannon (26:39.736)
to the daughter, she says, well, you know, look at this puppy. And the daughter is like, oh, no, I don't do dogs. I don't like dogs. I am allergic and I don't, you know, whatever. They make me itch, you know, all these things. And of course, Isabella's crestfallen and she looks really down. She's like, oh man, I wish your dad would have told me that I did not know that you had an allergy or, you know, reaction to dogs.

Shun (26:55.918)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (27:08.86)
And the little girl's clearly lying, but whatever. So then Julia Roberts' character, she says, okay, well let's give the dog a name. And the daughter says, Isabel, which is Julia's name. Yeah, she says because she's irritating and she makes me itch and all these things. So we'll call her Isabel.

Shun (27:11.924)
Hehehe

Shun (27:26.766)
her name.

Shannon (27:37.768)
And then she stomps off to her room. And Isabel, Julia, walks or stomps off behind her. And she slams the door open. And she says to her, pretty much saying, I'm your stepmom. And the girl is like, I don't care who you are. I don't want you here because I love my mom, blah, blah.

Oh, and a little bit of backstory about that. So the husband actually left his wife for Julia Roberts. So it wasn't like they were already divorced and something happened. He actually cheated on his wife and left his wife for Julia. So that's another dynamic that maybe we'll touch on another show. But that's the woman he loved. And so when

Isabel says to the daughter, she says, you know, you, you may not like me, but you will have to listen to me in this house. And the girl says, this is my dad's house. And Isabel says, I know it's your dad's house and it's my house. So you will follow my rules or, you know, whatever. And she makes a mistake. You know, Isabel makes a mistake when she says something like

Um, well, I'm sorry, the daughter says, I don't have to listen to you. You're not my mother. And, uh, Isabel says, thank God for that. And she regretted those words, of course, immediately. And she says, I'm sorry, what I meant to say was, you know, um, you have a great mom and you don't need another one. But when you're here, just recognize that this is, um, my house too.

You know, I'm here, we're all here, and we're gonna have to make this work. And the girl was still defiant, and she's like, no. But you could tell the seed had been planted because Julia turns around, or Isabel turns and walks out of the room. And the puppy comes to the door, and the little girl picks up the puppy that she's supposedly so allergic to and can't stand and makes her itch.

Shannon (29:59.488)
but she cradles the puppy in her arm. And that was symbolic of her accepting of her. She was starting to show some acceptance, yeah, of her stepmom. Yeah, so a lot of times, what this scene told me is that it takes an adult to, yes, she messed up when she said, "'Thank God I'm not your mom,' but she corrected herself.

Shun (30:09.972)
step mom.

Shannon (30:28.244)
You know, so sometimes the adult has to realize, yeah, the kids may be running the show or whatever, but you got to remember that they are kids. And if you are that step parent, give them a little grace. They might need a little grace because you're the adult and that is the fictional family I'm feeling.

Shun (30:40.718)
That's right.

Shun (30:49.998)
It's awesome. And you know what Shannon? That's a great scene a great movie all together, but that's the one thing that kind of Melted my husband into finally just kind of just easing off a little because yeah, he was the adult But I would say all the time Jimmy you're the adult could you just look at it from a different view? And when he started to actually see like I get it they've been here It's not that they don't want me here. They just don't want me to be all you know They didn't want him to have all of my time

Shannon (30:56.29)
Yeah.

Shannon (31:07.668)
Yeah, yeah, right.

Shun (31:20.362)
So when he finally came down just a little to say, you know what, I am the stepparent. This was their house. This was their world. And I came into it. Things ran so much smoother. So that is correct. The adult has to still be an adult at the end of the day. Great fictional family girl.

Shannon (31:20.617)
Right.

Shannon (31:28.312)
Right.

Shannon (31:34.568)
Right. Yeah, you cannot. Thank you. All right. So that is our episode for tonight. We want to thank you all for joining us. Like we say each week, we look forward to this and we look forward to next week and the weeks after. And as our subscriber base grows across the world, across the globe,

We want to thank you all for tuning in and hopefully when you hear me next week, I won't sound like this. I'll be all cleared up.

Shun (32:13.13)
But you know what baby mama thank you for showing up baby you are faithful, and I love you feel better Until next week, Pam

Shannon (32:16.54)
Of course. I love you too. Thank you so much.