Wifey and Baby Mama

Shun:
Hello family, we want to welcome you to the wifey and baby mama podcast. This is our premiere episode and we hope that we can come into your living rooms, cars, into your homes and just talk to you about some issues regarding blended families. I am Shawn. I am the wifey of the dynamic duo here. My partner is Shannon. She's the baby mom of the duo. And we just wanted

Shannon:
Hey,

Shun:
to, hey girl.

Shannon:
hey.

Shun:
We just wanted to talk to you all about. like I said, issues with blended families or how blended families get along. We just found a topic that we thought would be helpful, instrumental to making blended families better, better. No drama, that's why we have the no drama. Shannon and I have been friends, we've known each other for over 20 years and we never had static, because we choose to do this for our children. It was a choice we made. It had nothing to do with the common denominator that we do share. which is our children's father. And that's actually the title of our first show tonight, Common Denominator. So in this episode, we're gonna talk about how we both met him, our experiences with him and how we came to know each other and get along and how it's just been blowing. We know that there are a million podcasts, reality shows, TV shows in this day and age. So hopefully, you don't look at this as, oh, it's just another podcast. We hope that this is instrumental in bringing families together. And again, if you are together, then great keeping it together, you know, we're going to have redline segments every day Which will discuss issues. I'm sorry every show every week. We'll have a redline segment that will discuss the issues and problems you may be having or you write in to share your stories about how you guys get along how you blend how your blended family works and each each month we're gonna have a redline winner of the wife of WBM redline winner of every once a month Shannon.

Shannon:
Yes, it is once a month. We will

Shun:
and what will

Shannon:
choose

Shun:
they win?

Shannon:
a winner and they will win a $100 gift card

Shun:
Yay!

Shannon:
if we choose their submission. Yes, you will get that $100 gift card if we choose your submission to read on our podcast.

Shun:
So that's something that we'll have and we'll also have a segment called the fiction fictional family. I'm feeling I'll be responsible for reading the red lines and we'll be debating those or we'll switch, you know And Shannon will do the fictional family I'm feeling like I said, we'll switch

Shannon:
Yeah.

Shun:
out each week depending on how how each mama was ran How the week goes, but anyways, we hope that you enjoy

Shannon:
Exactly.

Shun:
We're gonna jump into this thing and get started and like I said, you know My name is Sean and I'm the wifey of the duo The first show is going to be the common denominator. I am just a strong black working mom and woman. And Shannon and I decided to do this thing. And I'm also the author of a book

Shannon:
Yeah.

Shun:
titled A Love the World Should Know that will be on Amazon on next month. And I have a webpage, it'll be www.evekgains.com.

Shannon:
Yes.

Shun:
So I hope you guys

Shannon:
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Shun:
will support me and get to know us as we come into your homes. Shannon, do you want to tell us a little bit about yourself, baby mama?

Shannon:
Oh, sure, yeah, I'm just baby mama. I'm here for the ride. I'm ready to try to just let people understand how we work. And a lot of folks won't identify, I'm sure, because Sean and I are unique in the sense that we have gotten along so well. And people may say, what's your secret sauce? What is this? Or whatever. I don't know. Maybe we'll figure it out as we're talking, why it works. so organically for us because it did. We didn't have to sit down and go through things. And I know a lot of other families do. So if whatever we say during this podcast and as we talk about blended families, not even just about Sean and I, cause this podcast isn't really just about the two of us. We wanna make it clearly about blended families across. You know the

Shun:
The world,

Shannon:
the world

Shun:
absolutely.

Shannon:
even I was gonna say the u.s.

Shun:
That's right, the world.

Shannon:
Yeah, so That's where we are

Shun:
Okay, well Shanna, how did you meet the

Shannon:
And

Shun:
competent?

Shannon:
i'm so proud of sean in her book

Shun:
And I'm so proud of you and your ideal and this thing we're putting out to the world Shannon is the brains behind the operation. So her saying she's here from the ride was a total, um, you know

Shannon:
I am here for the... Ha ha ha ha.

Shun:
Yeah, it's just totally her being shy. But Shannon, you were first. You know, you were first in the picture. So let's hear about how you met the common

Shannon:
Yeah.

Shun:
denominator.

Shannon:
Okay, so the common

Shun:
Take

Shannon:
denominator

Shun:
us back.

Shannon:
who I will call buddy will take you back. And I call him Buddy or B-U-D-D-Y and if you don't know what that means you better ask Music Soul Child. He will be happy to share what that means and for those of you who know you know you know you know you know. Anyway, 1986. Just graduated from high school. I'm living in the South. Had moved here from the Dakotas. to be with my father and family. My parents were of course were divorced and separated or whatever. So anyway, came to the South, graduated from high school here, naive Dakota Prairie chick, I didn't know much about nothing. So we're out in a parking lot of one of the popular clubs in North Carolina at the time. And if anyone can remember back in those days, you just cruise the parking lot because we weren't old enough to get in the club.

Shun:
parking lot pimping.

Shannon:
Obviously we weren't 20, 20 parking

Shun:
Hop

Shannon:
lot

Shun:
in

Shannon:
pimping.

Shun:
that template.

Shannon:
You got that right. Right, because we could not get in. So we just ride and you cruise the parking lot looking for guys, guys looking for girls. That's what you did.

Shun:
That's it.

Shannon:
And so I'm in my car. I drove some big black Oldsmobile something. I'm sure my best friend can remind me of what it was. I didn't care because I never drove it anyway. My best friend always drove my car or my cousin somebody. I never did but So it's three of us, me, my best friend, my cousin. We're all sitting in the front seat because back in those days, the front seat was one long row. And I'm in the middle

Shun:
in the church field.

Shannon:
and we're rolling through the parking in the church pew. In the middle of the church pew. As

Shun:
Rollin'

Shannon:
we're rolling

Shun:
through the parking

Shannon:
through

Shun:
lot of the club.

Shannon:
the parking. with the windows down, because you know, it's summer, it's June, just graduated, you know, 17 years old. And I hear, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, or we all hear yo, yo, yo. And so my best friend stops the car. We're approached by two guys, one who is Buddy. Buddy approaches us and he starts asking questions of all three of us. Now mind you, I'm not competitive. So I'm really not trying, you know, and maybe that was the thing because I was kind of like indifferent, I don't know. But I did notice his eyes. Everyone that meets Buddy

Shun:
What is his

Shannon:
noticed

Shun:
eyes?

Shannon:
his eyes. So I'm like, oh my God. Oh, what nice eyes. So anyway, and then, After he talks to all three of us, he ends up asking me for my number. I'm like, oh yes, yes, I won.

Shun:
He won the parking

Shannon:
I won

Shun:
lot

Shannon:
the.

Shun:
lottery.

Shannon:
Yes, I won the lottery parking lot lottery So after a few days he comes to pick me up to go out and he's in this raggedy

Shun:
I'm going to go ahead and close the video.

Shannon:
like 1970s Charger I'm like good thing you got pretty

Shun:
Yeah.

Shannon:
ass This little raggedy car right here But I get in the car once again, it's the whole one row front seat and We didn't wear seat belts back then and so I'm sliding and slamming into him slamming in the door because Anyone that knows buddy knows he's a crazy driver. This dude drives like a bat out of hell I don't know. I don't know. I don't even know where a phrase come from a bat

Shun:
To this

Shannon:
out of hell

Shun:
day

Shannon:
He drives like anybody

Shun:
it probably

Shannon:
out of hell.

Shun:
came from him.

Shannon:
It could be anybody out

Shun:
It

Shannon:
of

Shun:
probably

Shannon:
hell

Shun:
came from him

Shannon:
Anybody coming out of hell gonna try like like buddy, but anyway, I'm slamming into him slamming into the door slamming him and this of course Reminds me of another situation where we were out on a double date after this first date We were on a double date with a friend of mine a friend of mine and his cousin I think it was his cousin if I remember correctly Tried to hook them two up. It didn't work.

Shun:
I'm sorry.

Shannon:
But anyway Um, we're we're flying down the interstate going to Dinner movies or whatever. It's night is you know dark whatever we're flying And he buddy's going 195. I don't know 295 whatever he's going down the highway And my friend who is very vocal she's tries to chastise him and tell him you're going too fast You know, you need to do better blah, whatever she's saying. I'm like Girl, you got the wrong

Shun:
She

Shannon:
one.

Shun:
didn't know body

Shannon:
Got

Shun:
too

Shannon:
the

Shun:
well.

Shannon:
wrong one. What? Not at all. So what does he do? Like I said, it's 10 o'clock at night or whatever time is late, he pulls over on the side of the expressway and he tells her to get out. He's like, if you don't wanna ride, get out. Does she get out? Of course not. She can't get out the car because it's. 10 o'clock at

Shun:
On

Shannon:
night

Shun:
the

Shannon:
and

Shun:
highway.

Shannon:
we're on the expressway so on the yeah on the highway and I tell I turn to her and I Say girl, I'm just shut up and hold on He don't get you there. That's one thing buddy is not gonna kill you so relax your nerves Sean and I are alive today

Shun:
We are alive and he gonna get you there a little early.

Shannon:
We

Shun:
You're

Shannon:
are

Shun:
gonna get there in one piece.

Shannon:
Oh yeah, you gonna get

Shun:
Blood

Shannon:
there.

Shun:
pressure might be a little

Shannon:
You

Shun:
high,

Shannon:
gonna

Shun:
but

Shannon:
get

Shun:
you

Shannon:
there.

Shun:
will get there.

Shannon:
Right, right. So anyway, we dated, you know, I dealt with the crazy driving and I went off to school. Um, I went, um to Greensboro to UNCG. Um, that's another thing. So every time he come to see me at school, he, I want to say he got a ticket every single time. I don't know. I know his license ended up being revoked driving from Charlotte to Greensboro.

Shun:
Oh my god.

Shannon:
Ended up getting a revoked license. But somewhere along the lines, I conceive our son. And he's...

Shun:
You conceived your son and he upgraded his car.

Shannon:
Oh my gosh, yes, I forgot about the upgrade. Thank you, Sean. Thank you for the upgrade. So yes, he came to pick me up one day in the black maxima that he ended up taking back to Buffalo. So that's another thing. He was in the South too for a minute. Just not long, not long, not long. He was living in the South with his sister. Which is how he met me and then he went back to Buffalo and Sean will take it up from there from when he went back to Buffalo But before he went back to Buffalo he upgraded and he got the black maxima Lord everybody loved the black maxima

Shun:
Yes.

Shannon:
But But I gotta put that but in there The front plate on the maxima Say yo,

Shun:
Yo,

Shannon:
bitch

Shun:
Biff!

Shannon:
Yo, bitch You're a young 17 year old girl. What's wrong with

Shun:
That's

Shannon:
that?

Shun:
the Negro you want pulling up in your driveway at 17.

Shannon:
Exactly, that's the Negro you want in your life right there.

Shun:
But

Shannon:
Yes, yo bitch

Shun:
but right now if he pulled up to either one of our house he

Shannon:
Ha

Shun:
would

Shannon:
ha!

Shun:
politely be exed if you don't get on my yard

Shannon:
Oh my gosh, oh yeah, I'm like, if you don't get out of my driveway,

Shun:
You live and you learn,

Shannon:
I don't

Shun:
huh?

Shannon:
care, I don't care, I don't care what you driving, I don't care if you driving a Tesla,

Shun:
Mm.

Shannon:
I don't care if you driving, you know, Maserati with your bitch on it, you get down to my driveway.

Shun:
Oh, the woes of being young.

Shannon:
But yes, oh yeah, the world's a being young, but yes. So I had my son, the first born, and that, I don't know what I thought, but hey, he was still buddy.

Shun:
Still Buddy.

Shannon:
On to you, Sean.

Shun:
Well, Buddy moved back to Buffalo as Shannon said. So she took you back to what? The 1986 Shannon that was? We gonna fast forward

Shannon:
86.

Shun:
to 1994. And I'm standing at the bus stop on my way back to UB, which is the University of Buffalo. I'm in my sophomore year of college. And I see this black Maxima coming down the street. He was international pimping, right? With the Maxima, so. I see the black maxima coming down the street. I'm like, okay, that is a nice car because anything hubby drives, it's gonna be clean. It's gonna be clean right down to those tires.

Shannon:
Oh yeah,

Shun:
So

Shannon:
you got that

Shun:
it was

Shannon:
right.

Shun:
shining.

Shannon:
Even that raggedy 70s, even that raggedy

Shun:
He

Shannon:
70s,

Shun:
kept it clean.

Shannon:
something was clean.

Shun:
So I'm standing at the bus stop and I see this car and I'm like, it was a December day. It was quite cold, but the sun was out. Some was shining really bright car was shiny, but it was it was cool So I see the car and you know, it's a nice car I mean I said it like three times in my head and so the light is turning Uh is turning red and he yells out he rolls his window down goes yo What's your name? And I didn't like him approaching me with yo, so I said yo mama

Shannon:
Hehehe

Shun:
He said what I said your mama and I turned my back and when he rolled that window down I was like, oh my god. He is fine. He looked better than the car But I wasn't gonna let that stop me. I was tough girl. Shanna's the shy girl. I'm the spice of this thing. Shanna's the sugar. I'm not having it.

Shannon:
You're right.

Shun:
I

Shannon:
You're

Shun:
turned

Shannon:
right.

Shun:
my back and he said,

Shannon:
That's

Shun:
"'You're

Shannon:
right.

Shun:
not gonna tell me your name?' I said, "'No.' He said, "'That's cold.' I said, "'That's life.'" He, as soon as the light turned, now he was going straight. He never had a blinker on. As soon as the light turned, he throws his blinker on, he turns left and up until the McDonald's parking lot, which is behind the bus stop. I'm like, oh my God. And he flew up in there so fast. It made me take my razor out and put it in my pants pocket because I said I don't care how cute he is This dude getting cut today if you come over to this craziness So he's my razor in my pocket and he walks up and when he

Shannon:
Ha

Shun:
got

Shannon:
ha.

Shun:
out the car I'm like, oh my god, he is fine all the way down So he walks over in this slow cool walk He does and I said Lord, please help me slow down my heart So my heart's beating fast and he comes over he said so you're not gonna tell me your name I said we need to know my name for I said, I just want to know. I said, okay, if that'll get you up my face, my name is Sean. He said, why are you so cold? Why are you so mean? I said, I'm not mean, I don't know. You said you want to get to know me? I said, not particularly. And I said, Lord, please let this bus come. I mean, I want the bus to come, but I really don't, but I don't know what to say here. And sure enough,

Shannon:
Hehehehe

Shun:
God always answers me, here comes the bus. I'm like, good, I pick up my bag and he goes, where are you going? I said, to get on the bus. He said, you're going to leave me standing here? I said, you look like you can handle yourself. He said, wow. He sits on the bench and Oh, he crosses one leg over the other. I'm like, this boy is particularly good looking. So when the bus stops, he's like, can you just give me five minutes? And I was like, oh, I mean, I wanted him to ask because I'm trying to play tough guy here, but I did not wanna stay. So when he asked me, that was my cue. I signaled for the bus to keep going. And I said, wait a minute. I said, why do you wanna get to know me? He said, I just wanna get to know you. I said, why? Let me guess, because I'm pretty. He's like, you all right. I said, see, I knew I should have got on my bus. My first instinct told me he was a jerk. I should have kept walking. So I turned my back to him and I just turned my back to him like I'm just waiting on it I'm not saying another word and in a few seconds lady goes. Yeah right now you need a little more time When I turned around he was smiling again. I said, oh my god i'm gonna pass out at this bus stop He says well I said we can talk I said I already missed my bus. I said we can talk for a minute that'll you know Get you on your way. He says you want to go to mcdonald's. I said why do I look hungry? He's like no But the bus is gone.

Shannon:
Hehehehehehe

Shun:
We can stand out here like two homeless people. We can go inside and eat. I said, I don't care for McDonald's because we was in the hood hood. I'm like, I don't patronize this McDonald's. I

Shannon:
So it.

Shun:
don't, yeah, I'm fooling around over here. I mean, I'm from the hood, but I don't just, you know, I'm just hang out in McDonald's and things happen in McDonald's on Bailey and Delphi.

Shannon:
Hahaha!

Shun:
I'm sorry, it's Bailey and Genesee. So, but Bailey and Delphi too, but definitely happened there. So he says, I can give you a ride if you trust me. I said, ah. He look all right. He wasn't dead. Yeah, I think I can take it. If it got real bad, I think I can take it. So I walked to the car with him and he starts the car. So I take my razor out and I just put it in my hand. He goes, are you violent or crazy? I said, neither. Don't start none and won't be none. He just started laughing. He said, where you headed? I said, I'm headed

Shannon:
Hahaha.

Shun:
back to campus. He said, campus? I said, yeah, you be. He said, how old are you? I said 19 as good as I want I told that lie so fast. I was I know I said 21 I'm sorry as good as I want to I told that lie every bit of 19

Shannon:
Hehehehe

Shun:
He goes are you sure I said, yeah, I'm 21. He's like, alright, let's go. He takes me back and Surprisingly Bailey's a really busy street. So he couldn't really drive as fast I didn't get the crazy driving into a few more dates. So I was blessed on that

Shannon:
Ha ha!

Shun:
part Father what ran me away? But anyways, we get to my college dorm

Shannon:
Alright.

Shun:
and We talk a little bit and I said, well, how old are you? He said, I'm 27. Oh my God, cause he didn't look a day over 23. I gave him 23, which is why I lied and said I was 21. But when he said 27, I said, this dude about to be my daddy. But he was so fine and he didn't look it.

Shannon:
Hehehe

Shun:
So I said, you know, I could probably get away with a couple of days and just be on my way. That was the thought and that was the plan.

Shannon:
Yeah.

Shun:
Just, you know,

Shannon:
Yeah.

Shun:
see what he about. Sure enough. We talked until the Sun went down and he said well, I'm let you go. I said I have finals tomorrow You know, I'll catch up to you ladies. Give me your number. I said no Not gonna give you my number. I said you can give me yours because I'm trying to concentrate on my studies here I don't got time. He's like I just want to be your friend He gave me his number. I went home for winter break and when I was at my mom's I was just calling check on I Left the number at my dorm. I was devastated. It was like man And I'm like, you know what, you are 19. You didn't tell a good little lie, so maybe that's, you know, it's just fate. Sure enough, I go back to my dorm a couple of weeks later, and he was standing outside of my dorm, leaning on his car, and I'm like, oh my god. And my friend is like, is that the guy? I'm like, that's the guy. She's like, well, if you don't want him, give him my number. I'm like, that boy is 27. He both are our daddy, so we laughed. And then he said, you know, you're a hard girl to find. I said, why, you been looking for me that long? You know, I didn't hear from you. And that day he took me out for pizza. And we have been dealing ever since, off and on drama. We've had plenty of it. But baby mama and I never had any drama. And we dated for four years,

Shannon:
Yeah.

Shun:
off and on, women, girls, friends. Buddy is a hubby, is a mess. But we dated. And um. We had a daughter and then we were on one of our rough patches. He went away and Shannon and I just got together and decided we were going to make sure our, her son and my

Shannon:
Yeah.

Shun:
daughter were going to be siblings. It was going to be peaceful because no matter what transpired between him, those children were siblings and they would always be siblings. And I think that was our connection because we decided to create a bond. And I think that's why it's worked so well all this time.

Shannon:
Yeah, yeah. And I have to say that is gonna be a little, I don't know, troublesome for some folks, or they might say, well, what can we learn from you and Sean? Because there are gonna be plenty of people that listen to this podcast that have had, you know, so much drama. And yes, we have our experiences even outside, you know, Sean will be able to talk to you about other experiences she's had and I'll be able to talk to you about other experiences

Shun:
Absolutely.

Shannon:
I've had outside of being Sean that, you know, still kind of play into the blended family because we've been attacked from all different sides,

Shun:
Oh girl.

Shannon:
you know, but for the grace of God,

Shun:
We always

Shannon:
we

Shun:
got

Shannon:
are

Shun:
along,

Shannon:
here,

Shun:
yeah.

Shannon:
we are, amen, amen. And so if there are certain things that you can pick up from us, that's what we're here for.

Shun:
And now we're going to go into this segment of the red line. And that kind of falls into what Shannon was just speaking of. It's, it's things that kind of create situations that, that are prone for drama are, or, you know, it's just, it's just a

Shannon:
Exactly.

Shun:
breeding ground for drama. It's just things, red lines are just things that you just don't do in relationship, especially when the common denominator is someone else's husband. Whether it be you're the mother of his, he doesn't have any children with you. When a man has a child, he has an obligation to that child for the for the duration

Shannon:
Exactly.

Shun:
of that child's life, no matter how many wives he may get or not have. The problem is staying in your boundaries to respect that child. So Shannon, do you

Shannon:
Right,

Shun:
want to read our red line

Shannon:
exactly,

Shun:
for this

Shannon:
all

Shun:
week?

Shannon:
right. Okay, here we go into our red line segment. So today our red line is about baby's daddy who talks to the baby mama without the wifey's knowledge. Now what I feel from this, what I take from this, I was never comfortable with it. And I feel like there shouldn't be a situation where the baby daddy is talking to the baby mama without wifey knowing. Even if he's not, even if it's not wifey, say he's in another committed relationship

Shun:
Right.

Shannon:
and he's not with the baby mama, you know, there's, that just causes so much confusion in my mind. I like things clean. I like to draw the lines and know where I stand and I'm sitting on this side, you're over there. So I don't feel like there should ever be communication.

Shun:
Well, I just,

Shannon:
With

Shun:
while

Shannon:
that.

Shun:
we get along, I got to just disagree on the point on the red line.

Shannon:
Yeah.

Shun:
I think that there are exceptions to that rule now. Say if that child is injured or hurt,

Shannon:
Yeah,

Shun:
I don't need my

Shannon:
yeah.

Shun:
husband's baby mama tracking me down to say, hey, he's at the hospital. Could you tell him? No, you call him yourself. That's important. That's something that needs to go straight past me. That's something he should

Shannon:
Yeah,

Shun:
be saying,

Shannon:
you're right.

Shun:
hey,

Shannon:
You're

Shun:
Shannon

Shannon:
right.

Shun:
called, Jay's hurt. I'm... the baby's hurt, I'm on my way. Okay, that's that.

Shannon:
Yeah,

Shun:
I'm

Shannon:
yeah.

Shun:
not gonna be, oh, where are you?

Shannon:
Yeah.

Shun:
Why she didn't call me? And you're gonna have those wives who will do that. And guess what? You're creating drama in your own home for no reason.

Shannon:
That's

Shun:
You gotta have

Shannon:
true.

Shun:
sense of sensibility when it comes to those things too. Now also, if the

Shannon:
That's

Shun:
child

Shannon:
true.

Shun:
is stranded, if that child, the father lives in San Diego and the son or daughter's in San Diego visiting their strand at the airport. The wife, I mean the baby mama shouldn't have to call the wife and be like, would it be okay if he goes and get his child? Like it's exceptions to the rules.

Shannon:
Yeah,

Shun:
You know what

Shannon:
yeah.

Shun:
I mean? But we as adults,

Shannon:
There are.

Shun:
yeah, we as adults know when we're being messy and maybe you don't. That's what we're here for.

Shannon:
Yeah,

Shun:
That's what we're going to do

Shannon:
yeah,

Shun:
these red lines

Shannon:
yeah.

Shun:
and give the public opinion on how, you know, how these things can be and where you can write into and Shannon, would you let them know where they can drop their red line submissions?

Shannon:
Yeah. Yeah, but before that though, one point you did make, Sean, about if your child breaks an arm or whatever. Yes, I'm totally on board

Shun:
Right.

Shannon:
with you that there should be some exceptions.

Shun:
There you go.

Shannon:
However, if it's already messy though, what if you're already in a truly toxic blended relationship? How would you deal with that? If you and I are going at it Sean and Shannon and I'm calling buddy For something even though the child might be hurt, but I still feel like if it sounds like stirring the pot What do you think?

Shun:
when it comes to a child, there is no pot. That child, if you,

Shannon:
Okay,

Shun:
as adults,

Shannon:
okay.

Shun:
if we keep, always remember that that child comes first, it's up for the father to decipher and say, okay,

Shannon:
Right.

Shun:
he broke his arm, you know, thank you for calling me. You don't need to call him every five minutes with, he, you know, he got an update, let the father go to the hospital, what? Oh, all right, now they're home. Oh, he's sleeping now. And then 10 minutes later, oh, he woke up and got juice and got ice. Now you're making a serious situation, messy. So you got to draw the line

Shannon:
All right.

Shun:
on what it is, because a child is always, that's

Shannon:
Exactly.

Shun:
the first and foremost factor, especially a minor child.

Shannon:
Yep,

Shun:
So

Shannon:
yep.

Shun:
that's

Shannon:
Yeah,

Shun:
what

Shannon:
yeah.

Shun:
I think about. No matter if it's toxic

Shannon:
Yeah.

Shun:
or not, that child

Shannon:
Okay.

Shun:
is still his child. Or vice

Shannon:
Right.

Shun:
versa.

Shannon:
I like, I like what you said when you said, yeah, I like what you said when you said the father It's like that common denominator has to kind of keep the peace.

Shun:
Absolutely.

Shannon:
It shouldn't be on shan and

Shun:
Absolutely.

Shannon:
shannon

Shun:
Absolutely.

Shannon:
You know, even though shan and shannon have done this on their

Shun:
Right,

Shannon:
own,

Shun:
but

Shannon:
you know in a perfect

Shun:
that's not

Shannon:
world

Shun:
always the case though. We know that

Shannon:
Uh, it's not always the

Shun:
what

Shannon:
case.

Shun:
we have is not

Shannon:
Yeah.

Shun:
uncommon,

Shannon:
Yeah

Shun:
but it's more common for the messy scenarios. And that's what we're trying. We're hoping to eliminate

Shannon:
Bye.

Shun:
and give some pointers to and maybe troubleshoot some of those things. That's what we're here for.

Shannon:
Exactly, exactly. Yep, yep. All right, so on to what Sean was alluding to before I interrupted you, sorry

Shun:
know you.

Shannon:
sweetie. But the red lines, we are going to accept submissions each week or however you wanna submit them, but each month we're going to pick one winner. out of the red line submission. Like for example, this week we, our red line was baby daddy shouldn't be talking to baby mama without wifey knowledge. So anybody else in a blended family that have any other type of red line situations that they feel they shouldn't cross, submit them to us. And submit them to wifeyandbabymamaatgmail.com. Wifeyandbabymamaatgmail.com. And if we choose your submission to read on our podcast every third Thursday of the month, because we're only gonna do one a month, but if your submission is read the third Thursday of each month, you will win $100. Yes.

Shun:
Yay!

Shannon:
So please submit your Redline submissions and win your $100 gift card. It'll be a gift card

Shun:
And we'll do that once

Shannon:
that

Shun:
a

Shannon:
we

Shun:
month.

Shannon:
will submit to you

Shun:
And we guys want you to submit

Shannon:
once a month,

Shun:
them because

Shannon:
yes.

Shun:
we want, like I said, this is an idea. This is something we came up with, but it's to involve everyone. So please submit them because we want to read them or we want

Shannon:
Yeah.

Shun:
to see what everyone else is going through and see if we can be of any assistance. So we will now move into

Shannon:
Exactly.

Shun:
the, go ahead, Channing, I'm sorry.

Shannon:
No, I was going to say, because our red lines may not be your

Shun:
Absolutely.

Shannon:
red lines. You know, Sean and I, we got so many red lines and you may come with us, come to us and say, nah, we got some harder than that.

Shun:
So we

Shannon:
So

Shun:
want to hear

Shannon:
we're

Shun:
that

Shannon:
ready.

Shun:
yep, we're

Shannon:
We're

Shun:
here

Shannon:
ready

Shun:
to discuss

Shannon:
for it.

Shun:
and you know and hash it out hammer it out however We need to

Shannon:
Yes,

Shun:
and now

Shannon:
yes.

Shun:
we're gonna move to the fictional family. I'm feeling Shannon. Tell us about that

Shannon:
Ah, fictional family I'm feeling. Yes. So, the fictional family I'm feeling this week. The family is called the Upshaw's. They are a fictional family on Netflix. It's a franchise starring Mike Epps, Kim Fields, and Wanda Sykes. Now. Um, Kim fields is wifey. Mike Epps obviously it's baby daddy. Wanda Sykes is the sister. Um, she is Kim field sister. So baby mama, I'm not sure of her name. Um, but, um, there are quite a few baby mamas in the show actually, but, um, the one episode I'm going to talk about today that really, um, spoke to me was a, an episode where Kim fields as wifey. went to get her hair done. And the baby mama of the oldest child just happens to be a hairdresser. And wifey, Kim feels needed a hair done. And there was only one place she could go in the whole state of Indiana.

Shun:
Thank you.

Shannon:
She had to go to baby mama to get her hair done. So she goes to get her hair done. And as she sits in the chair, she turns to... Baby mama and she says I need an apology and baby mama turns to her and she says for what? You need an apology because I had a child By uh your husband who I didn't know was your husband because he didn't say was married Or do you need a apology because I decided to keep my child and not abort it or Do you need an apology because I asked the father, your husband, to be a father to this child that he created. Tell me, what do you need an apology for? And wifey turns to her and she says, just do my hair with such resignation and such, you know, I don't know, just the... I don't know if it was defeat. I don't I don't know if you want to call it that but it just Resonated with being and it spoke to me and it just let me know that What she was saying when she said just do my hair just that one sentence Let me know that she was truly saying we're here. We're in this Your baby mama. I'm wifey. We have these children with this man

Shun:
and we have to exist.

Shannon:
Just do my hair If we gonna exist,

Shun:
Just

Shannon:
yeah, we

Shun:
do

Shannon:
are gonna

Shun:
my

Shannon:
exist.

Shun:
hair means we are going to exist in this thing. You have your role and I have mine. That's what just do my

Shannon:
Yes.

Shun:
hair. That one line speaks volumes.

Shannon:
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So that is the fictional family I am feeling this week.

Shun:
Okay.

Shannon:
And we'll have another one for

Shun:
Yep.

Shannon:
next

Shun:
We'll

Shannon:
week.

Shun:
do those every week channel. I will be bringing those to you. And we have come to the conclusion of our first, um, episode of our podcast. We want to thank you for joining

Shannon:
Yay.

Shun:
us. Yes. We want to thank

Shannon:
Thank

Shun:
you for joining

Shannon:
you so

Shun:
us.

Shannon:
much

Shun:
We hope that you

Shannon:
everyone.

Shun:
would take this ride with us. On next week,

Shannon:
Yay!

Shun:
we're gonna um, we're gonna broadcast every Thursday at 7 30 p.m We hope um that you come into our you know into our show We hope that you share with us in that, you know You take something from it and we look forward to seeing you and this is our first episode. So forgive our nervousness Forgive

Shannon:
Yeah.

Shun:
it forgive our jitters, but we will be bringing some real-life issues and we hope that you are here to share that with this Until next

Shannon:
Yeah.

Shun:
Thursday. Take it easy

Shannon:
Until next time, thank you all so much for joining us. Love you all. Until next

Shun:
Bye.

Shannon:
week.