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Shun (00:36.579)
Hi, I'm Shun.

Shannon (00:38.05)
Hi, I'm Shannon.

Shun (00:40.173)
And we're the host of Wifey and Baby Mama. Happy Thursday, family, and happy Thursday, Shannon.

Shannon (00:45.678)
Happy Thursday.

Shun (00:47.899)
Welcome to episode 5 guys season 5 episode 5 Shannon, can you believe it? We are moving right along Right, we are honored that you have tuned in to spend another Thursday with us You're two hosts us with the most it's okay and we're gonna break down another exciting title for you tonight titled the comeback Shannon are you ready?

Shannon (00:56.374)
Yeah, flying as it normally does.

Shannon (01:17.838)
Let's do it.

Shun (01:19.543)
All right. So as you know guys this podcast is all about life love family and what that looks like when things get off track as they sometimes do so if you're new to wifey and baby mama didn't know what we're all about then hey now, you know, And we welcome you to our podcast tonight. So as I stated This is a family podcast on life love and sometimes Things that don't look like love. Okay, so our title tonight is kind of

I guess another follow-up Shannon. Would you say continuation of last week? So that will make it a second of this kind for this season guys, our topics are gonna be so nice We might have to do them twice. Okay, but We just want to make sure we give you guys enough clarity because these are some you know serious situations So we don't want to leave anyone hanging in the balance So we decided to do a follow-up on the comeback now Keep in mind Shannon are not doctors psychiatrists any of that good stuff. We're simply here for people

Shannon (01:49.218)
Yeah, yeah I would say that. It is.

Shannon (02:13.016)
Hehehe.

Shun (02:15.139)
Especially our younger folks that may find themselves at a crossroad or maybe Shannon is listeners that don't believe in therapy prayer You know, whatever reason hopefully, you know our show can bring a sense of peace as we give our opinions on our life situations You know, we always make that disclaimer Shannon because you know somebody run around, you know, they ain't got no license. They know doctor You know that you know that

Shannon (02:37.29)
Uh-huh, uh-huh, yeah, yeah. And that's fine. Yeah, yeah. And it's fine if you disagree. You know, there are people that are gonna disagree with what we have to say, just like when we're watching and listening to other people's podcasts or other folks' television shows, we don't agree with everything they say, you know? So we don't take any offense.

Shun (02:44.069)
That's right.

Shun (02:55.085)
Everything they say absolutely but shannon, know why? And not at all and why we have no college degrees shanna i'm telling you life 101 has taught me plenty of things, okay Things that college courses never have so we're just giving y'all a little life 101 and hoping to help somebody along the way so any

Shannon (03:04.955)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Exactly.

Shannon (03:15.942)
Right, right. Here we go.

Shun (03:19.055)
Hopefully we can make it better since the things we're going through out here and that in these days and times are Standing not just relationship even economy. It's a whole lot of things that can get our relationships off track, but this specific episode will be Dilling on the comeback what happens after we've had infidelity and that and last week I'll give you guys a little quick recap the lovely Ashley joined us on the benefit of the doubt, you know

Shannon (03:28.896)
Yeah, right.

Shannon (03:45.934)
Yeah.

Shun (03:45.991)
Extending a little grace after we've had these infidelity episodes if it was decided that the relationship would continue Tonight we'll discuss what happens after the infidelity and we have made a hard decision that we're gonna stick this thing out You know, we're gonna try and hit that point You know from both of our points of views and unfortunately really wanted a male guest for this and y'all just like we do for every episode But the guys run they run guys. We can't

Shannon (03:48.782)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (04:10.232)
Hehehehehe

Shun (04:12.963)
We cannot get a male perspective this season, but Shannon, know what? We are not quitters I guarantee you for season 15 season 5 is up these 15 episodes are done Shannon. We're gonna get a meal on here But I would have been so good to heaven You know what I'm saying I tried my husband y'all he was like, nope, it was a hard no He wasn't a wasn't a thought. He's like that topic. You got that one So here we go

Shannon (04:23.019)
yeah, we will for sure. Even if I gotta kidnap one.

Shannon (04:37.838)
Right, now I'm it.

Shun (04:41.375)
Shannon so I know why he probably gave us the heart. No, you know in my opinion in My case past trigger Shannon has helped me hostage for a while and occasionally to this day, you know my mind drifts and I'm not I'm not ashamed to admit that but I Quickly dismiss those thoughts because I realize Shannon. It's very unhealthy to live in the place of what if If we made this decision to you know, we're gonna come back. We're gonna get it done. It's very hard to live in what if I mean

Shannon (05:03.33)
Yeah, yep, yep.

Shannon (05:10.274)
Right.

Shun (05:11.651)
I would even talk to other friends and encourage them to like reconnect in peace if you chose to say You got to reconnect in peace as we said last week Shannon You can't let it be a life sentence, right? But you know what while I was passing out some of that advice Shannon, I wasn't feeling it all the times myself You know, I was encouraging people but I didn't want them living in Tormore But for a long time Shannon, I hadn't even achieved that piece for myself. You know what I'm saying? Have you ever been there?

Shannon (05:21.89)
Yeah.

Shannon (05:28.419)
Right.

Shannon (05:37.295)
Wow. Yeah. You know, so with my husband, we've never had the full, you know, onslaught of, you know, infidelity or whatever, but there have been little things where, you know, he reminds me of, if anyone ever watched Good Times and James Evans would get attention from a woman and he'd be like, he, he'd do that little laugh. He, he, you know, cause he's so flattered or whatever.

Shun (06:01.819)
You

Shannon (06:05.634)
Well, my husband would get flattered and he would sometimes have, you know, little conversations, you know, because he's so flattered by attention. And, you know, that would send me, you know, to another realm because one thing I can say before I got married, well, I don't know this for a fact and I'm sure if some of my old boyfriends were listening, they'd say, nah, I cheat on you. But to my knowledge,

Shun (06:19.131)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (06:30.587)
I'm going

Shannon (06:33.41)
To my knowledge, none of my boyfriends. I never had to deal with I caught my boyfriend with this person or I caught my boyfriend with that. So I lived in a total bubble when it came to you know that type of thing or even if I suspected you might have had a you know someone that turned your eye or you know got you going I would you know immediately back off and I walk away and say okay no you you might have a one wandering eye or whatever you might

Shun (07:01.869)
right.

Shannon (07:02.574)
Yeah, because I remember in high school, the love of my life in high school told me, in high school, you know, had that high school love.

Shun (07:12.954)
Oh, oh you read my book baby and you watch my movie. Oh, yes, ma'am. Go right ahead totally understand

Shannon (07:18.762)
Yes High school love. my gosh. I remember him telling me He told me and I will say his name's his name is jewels jewel springs loved him to pieces He told me that he had to dump me because this other girl who I won't say her name, no He said well she she's

up to sleeping with me and you're not you won't have sex with me but she will so I'm dumping you so I remember I used to put him on a pedestal for that you know how you say well at least he didn't cheat at least he just he came forward and said you won't put out but she will so I'm out and that's yeah right

Shun (07:47.609)
Shun (07:56.928)
Yeah,

Shun (08:04.333)
And you would not believe that's hard for most men to do so jewels we can't get jewels a shout out for that I you know, I respect that more than a man. I got a catch. You know, man, i'm sorry I totally respect that so i'm with you when you're right jewels

Shannon (08:13.054)
Mm-hmm, right, right. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, yeah, so I knew that men could have them, you know, they could you know, totally find someone else more appealing So whenever I would see that if you know, someone else is turning your head then yeah, I'm out I'm not gonna sit back and wait for you to cheat so as far as I know none of the boyfriends did and so when it

Shun (08:26.692)
Hehehe

Shun (08:34.786)
Absolutely.

You had a clean record.

Shannon (08:41.088)
Yeah, so when it came to my husband appreciating attention from other people and You know we we bout right we did I did not and so there were quite a few times our marriage was quote unquote over I'm like I'm done. I'm out. This is it, you know and Sean you've heard me I call you up me like I'm out girl

Shun (08:46.745)
You didn't know how to deal with that.

Shun (08:59.119)
Yeah And i'm like wait now hold on don't don't call him the cavalry. Yeah, hold on he was just on the phone, right? He just said hi to he just said hi to friendly. No, that ain't that ain't that ain't the grounds for calling the quits ma'am But even even sometimes with you shannon when we have these phone calls like i'm like no shannon don't do that Don't know that's not then the next week. I'm like wait a minute. Listen

Shannon (09:08.886)
Yeah, yep, yep.

Shannon (09:15.158)
Right, right, right. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Shun (09:27.867)
So like I said, that's what I was referring to even sometimes when you're not in your place of comfort, right? You still want what's best for your people, you know what I mean? So I'm happy that we're not the type of females that we discussed last week because I'm over because my stuff is tore up. Yeah, leave him girl. I want to put up with that. That's those are the kind of people you got to be careful about because I'm telling you to leave yours and I'm not sure if my stuff is solid. You get what I'm saying? So you got to just you got to judge, engage those situations.

Shannon (09:30.583)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (09:35.746)
Right, right.

Shannon (09:43.758)
Thank you.

Shannon (09:52.822)
Right, right.

Shun (09:57.285)
For yourself and that's what we're trying to tell you here people sometimes people don't have your best interest in mind Especially when it comes to a title like the combat You have to be very careful who you include in that situation and who you bring in for advice and we discussed that on last week, but We have to get to a go ahead

Shannon (09:58.881)
Exactly, yeah.

they don't.

Shannon (10:07.107)
Yeah.

Shannon (10:14.296)
Yeah, and some people, know, yeah, a lot of people say I would never put up with that. I wouldn't put up with that. And, you know, and then you have other people to the other extreme. They put up with much worse, you know. But like, mm But like this this topic today, the comeback when you do decide and that's where we started out this conversation you were asking, you know, have I ever dealt with certain things? But yeah.

Shun (10:25.721)
You better know that. You better know it.

Shannon (10:42.88)
even though mine might be minor to some people, it might be great to others. But when I decided, okay, the marriage is not over, we are gonna figure this out or whatever. But I was uncomfortable. I wasn't fully there saying I could trust you. Now whenever he would walk out to the garage with his phone.

Shun (10:48.058)
Right.

Shannon (11:10.346)
Okay, is he still talking to this girl? You know or are they texting or you know, what's he doing? You know, I had to get past that and that took therapy that took us sitting down with a therapist saying hey, know, this is what I'm feeling and I'm sure Well, no, shouldn't say I'm sure if I had experienced it before in previous relationships It may have gone a different way. may have been either it was really over

Shun (11:11.291)
you

Shannon (11:40.719)
Or I could have just been more accepting. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, not that big of a deal.

Shun (11:41.987)
This is not that serious. Yeah, this is here Because you know cuz last do had a baby on me so that's not really that bad Lord forgive me, but I'm saying Sometimes when you go through stuff, no, it's not but sometimes when you go through stuff I'm saying like it's like it wasn't that bad, you know, that's what my friends were going through things

Shannon (11:55.762)
lord, that's not funny.

Shun (12:05.485)
I was encouraging them. Hey if you guys have decided to stick it out Don't worry about other people's opinion because really when it comes right down to it, just the two of you You know, so even though I had been through things Shannon, unfortunately, I was the girl that got cheated on a lot I think for two reasons I was vulnerable I was country is all get up and I think I was far too trusting so I think that man I wasn't doing a whole lot of putting out myself. So I think that was a lot of what my problem was and I

Shannon (12:13.23)
Yeah.

Shun (12:34.607)
just gonna go ahead and tell you I probably was a little mean too because I will get with you now and a lot of men just can't handle me in my mouth. So for whatever reason, you know, I found myself on the other side of the cheese boy real a lot really more than I wanted to be and I'm not scared to admit it but I can tell you one thing though Shannon, I didn't put up with it too often like that baby I found out about that baby in high school. I was gone. You understand?

Shannon (12:38.478)
You

Shannon (12:50.764)
Yeah.

Shun (12:59.547)
Found out about such as such. I've been college. I was dating this other guy his girlfriend knocked on my door. Tell me Oh, that's I was gone. So one thing I did I can't give myself credit for The only one I just let don't know when I let get been playing my face constantly was that dog on Jimmy I don't know why let that boy play with me some but that's the only one Who let it tell this story that I cheated on her and she stayed? Okay, but you know, I understand why now that was our lot in life, right? but I Do believe that

Shannon (12:59.64)
Yeah, yeah.

Shannon (13:25.346)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (13:28.569)
We made it to a solid place and I'm to discuss later on, you know what that looks like. But, but what I want to switch to right now is children's shing.

Shannon (13:37.934)
Mm.

Shun (13:39.781)
How does it look like to the kids once the partner commit an act of infidelity, you know, this instance is where there's The kids hold the mother to the fire more than the father. Have you have you ever seen couples like that? You know I don't know

Shannon (13:55.021)
Yeah, well, no, I've never seen where they hold the mother. No, I have seen where, you know, fathers have been hated or I have one very close friend where her relationships in her adult life suffered because she didn't trust men because of what her father did to her mother. And so

Shun (14:21.53)
Wow.

Shannon (14:22.754)
That impacts her to this day. And I hate it for her, you know, that she was never able to move forward past, you know, what she saw growing up. And then other situations where, you know, the children are too young to know, but yet the mother somehow finds a way to let them know when they're older, which is damaging. Lord.

Shun (14:46.555)
You met, do you remember? Well, here I go. You know, me and my movies since we done took out the fixing of families. Now you brought it up. Now I can't help where my memory mind goes. You remember love and basketball? Now that's the classic. You have, you have to have seen that. That was a, that was a point where the mother could have actually left that child completely out of that. That boy was in college. He was out of the home. He did not need to know if his father did that, she should have moved on quietly.

Shannon (14:54.83)
Mm. Yes, yes. yes. yes. Now that one I know.

Shannon (15:08.78)
Yeah, yeah.

Shannon (15:15.894)
Yep, yep.

Shun (15:16.175)
That was one part of it. First of all, that's mine and Jamila's favorite movie of all, much as I watch TV, nothing I don't think will ever top that movie in our book. But that's the only part of that movie that I really want to run through the TV on because that is one time that she did not have the clue that child. Now, Shannon, when you have smaller children, no matter how much we try to keep it private, you know, sometimes the change in the turmoil that cheating causes in a household, no matter how hard you try, you can't keep it from those kids, right?

Shannon (15:20.558)
Bye!

Shannon (15:32.366)
That's right.

Shannon (15:45.922)
Yeah. Yep.

Shun (15:46.661)
But in that case, there was no need for that kid to know that and she Had that boy hate his father. But did you hear when the mom and dad had the argument he said You know, I wasn't ready for a child. She said are you trying to say trap me? He said no matter how it happened I stood up and I was a man and you know that said to me Shannon spoke volumes to say is I did my thing but I stepped up I married you and I raised my kid the right way So she was just obsessed. She was just upset with the fact that he didn't want

Shannon (15:50.062)
Hmm.

Shannon (15:54.059)
Right.

Shannon (16:02.83)
you

Shannon (16:10.454)
Yeah, yep, yep.

Shun (16:15.995)
But he was a great a brilliant father to that boy. He got him, know caution man basketball He raised a man. He taught him not what to do what to say and she basically undid everything that father did because of her personal feelings she just couldn't accept the fact that it was over for her and I will I never forgave her for that in that movie because that boy didn't have to be destroyed like that, but luckily He was able to come back. Remember at the end he was able to go back get his girl and

Shannon (16:17.583)
Mm-hmm. Yes, he was.

Shannon (16:32.194)
That's right.

Shannon (16:43.768)
Yep.

Shun (16:44.879)
had this baby and it was a beautiful ending. But it doesn't always work that way because sometimes the comeback doesn't happen. So in that case, it wasn't the parents that came back, but it was the boy that was able to heal from that situation. And that I did, you know, that I did admire.

Shannon (16:48.886)
No, that's right.

Shannon (16:58.285)
Right.

Right. So have you seen the flip side where in real life where the mother is, you know, okay.

Shun (17:06.443)
Absolutely, they help the kids call the mother to a higher, you know, I don't know I think it's just nature just like men can sleep with high memory one. They like he cool That's the man but when a woman sleep with one man besides, she's the biggest love in town she did big as all out here. So, yes So that's how it is I think with a couple of relationships with that i'm speaking of of course I don't call these people's name. There is mess up their livelihood, but the kids really like they took the mother down through there like

Shannon (17:15.63)
Mmm.

Shannon (17:20.59)
Yeah... Yeah...

Shannon (17:29.347)
Right.

Shannon (17:34.227)
Mmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Shun (17:35.267)
You know like you trip what you do to my daddy But when the dad did the exact same thing it's kind of was like the silent treatment It was swept under work and like life goes on and I think that's such a double standard. So yeah, that's why I mentioned it I have seen that and I don't agree with that

Shannon (17:49.099)
yeah, double standard. Yeah. Or when you have, or have seen, and I've seen it in my family, where if the wife is cheating on, there's no sympathy for her because someone has figured, she deserved it. you know, she doesn't treat him right anyway. Because you're on the outside looking in, you don't know what's really going on behind closed doors.

Shun (18:08.123)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (18:15.301)
That's right.

Shannon (18:18.68)
But in some cases, and I've been guilty of it, I have many, many times where I found out, such and such cheating on his wife or your cousin or your this or that, your auntie. And you're like, well, she deserves it. She should treat them better. She should be nicer. She should be this or whatever. And that's wrong. That is so wrong. And I know this now.

Shun (18:45.883)
You don't know if that night the woman's again beat or knocked upside her head You don't know if he's not sleeping with her can he perform? We don't know all the details that goes into it sometime. That's why okay I got a hitch out with the new 20 the 21st century sent we listen and we don't judge You don't know what's going on sometimes I had I've been waiting to use that when I got it. I finally got to work and use it we listen and we don't judge

Shannon (18:48.66)
Exactly! Right.

Shannon (18:56.078)
That's right.

Shannon (19:05.57)
That's right. Yeah.

Shannon (19:10.518)
If we listen and don't judge, and that's so hard as humans, really is too, you know, especially when we watch a lot of reality TV and you're meant to judge, you're meant to sit there and judge these people on their crazy lives. And so you in turn take that, you know, those thoughts to your, mm-hmm, yeah, yeah.

Shun (19:15.384)
It is hard. It is hard.

Shun (19:20.581)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (19:26.853)
That's a fact.

projected into real-life situations It's a fact but but let me ask you this Shannon. It's one more point I kind of want to discuss with this topic when you have experienced that the mother's cheating and they're getting the harsh treatment or the The guy's cheating and says well, maybe she deserved it because she's beating him or whatever Have you seen those couples survive? Have you seen any of those couples? Rebound and come back you have that's good. That's good to know

Shannon (19:50.607)
oh yeah yeah yeah i have i've seen them come back i've i've seen them get stronger i've seen uh... uh... uh... a friend of mine her uh... parents they actually separated for a little while you know them the mother said and you know i'm out of here and when i say a little while i mean a couple years she said i can't i can't do it but he didn't move on he waited

Shun (20:08.091)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (20:14.137)
Okay.

Shannon (20:20.214)
And I have to give him that. I was just astonished that he said, she's coming back. Cause you know, they've been together since, you know, childhood almost. And he couldn't see his life without her, even though he messed up. He said, yeah, I was wrong, but I'm not going to move on. I'm just going to sit here and wait. And she went out, did her thing, finally lived a little herself. And then she came back and they're strong to this day.

Shun (20:22.555)
Wow.

Shun (20:32.357)
Okay.

Shun (20:37.435)
Hmm.

Shannon (20:49.108)
And so when people look at their marriage and they, you know, some people scoff and say, yeah, they've been married, you know, 40 some years, but look at what he did. So I don't consider that a success. I do consider this a success. And yeah.

Shun (21:06.171)
Consider this is because I'm gonna tell you something and I think I've said it before I'm gonna say it again and as long as wife and baby mama's and business you might hear it one more time You show me anyone who's been married 5 10 15 20 30 40 years and you show me a perfect marriage I'll show you two lying folks Everyone who's been married five years or better has endured some things now, maybe not cheating Maybe not infidelity, but baby you've endured some things and that is the last point that I want to speak to Shannon I'll segue into that

Shannon (21:21.9)
Yep, yep.

Shannon (21:27.331)
Yeah.

Shannon (21:31.918)
Yeah.

Shun (21:38.327)
What about couples who don't go through infidelity? What about clean slate? Do you think Shannon is instances where there's no fidelity at all? I wonder if people still have their doubts, you know, because as I become older and wiser Shannon I've learned that trust doesn't start and end with fidelity It's so much more it's so much more You understand what I'm saying? So like can I trust you with our finances?

Shannon (21:57.635)
That's true.

yeah yeah yeah

Shun (22:07.195)
Can I trust you to show up for our children? Those type of things, offenses and disappointments that can also drive wedges in. you think it's along the same lines or you think that's just too far fetched from the topic that we're speaking on tonight?

Shannon (22:07.896)
Hmm right, yeah

Shannon (22:22.702)
Well no, I mean it depends on how seriously you take some of these things. know there are some couples where finances, they're a joke, you know, they're not a big deal. But then there are other people where... Finances end the marriage. It will end the marriage, yeah. There's no way around it. And my sister who's been on the show before...

Shun (22:28.858)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (22:37.199)
finances and the marriage.

Shannon (22:47.182)
Tiffany her and her husband, you know finances they were on the same page and that's the one thing I did love about their marriage when it came to the money part of their marriage They were on the same page when I tell you nobody was spending this or that or whatever without You know talking it over. It was it was a big deal now me me

Shun (22:58.139)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (23:14.902)
We're the same page too. like woo. We got five dollars where we going?

Shun (23:15.269)
Let's go!

We didn't expect that $20 bonus. Let's eat out tonight turn the stove off And Shannon that's exactly my husband our so honey I feel it I will say with our businesses now I will say that we are now we're just now learning to be a little more You know a little more responsible because you know, we're trying to build it you trying to build We're trying to build this empire here, but Shannon. I'm totally with you

Shannon (23:28.224)
Right. You got that right. You got that right.

Shannon (23:39.797)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh.

Yes, yes.

Shun (23:50.625)
I believe in baby. We made it we spend it. You know what the kids got life insurance y'all spend that when we die. How about that? Okay

Shannon (23:56.111)
That's right. But right now we're going to Hawaii.

Shun (24:00.123)
Now we have we about here So hey I totally feel you on that honey, but yeah, so I think that then we can say that's not so far-fetched then you know, it's other things that couples can lead us straight from but the point of me bringing that up was I wanted people to understand when it comes to the comeback that Everything doesn't start and fall on infidelity. Every couple would not have that problem

Shannon (24:05.566)
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Shannon (24:13.89)
No, no.

Shun (24:27.835)
That will not be the end off for every couples but it's often and that's that to me That's the only offense that I think is very hard to come back from like I can teach you how to spend money Shannon and manage money better I can teach Jimmy which I had to you know, it's okay to discipline the kids, but don't do it at this time I have been taught by other wiser wives that you don't talk about Kids and stuff when your husband come home from working 18 12 hours a day. That's not the time

Shannon (24:37.475)
Yeah.

Right, right.

Shannon (24:47.189)
Yeah.

Shun (24:56.345)
He is tired, he's not gonna hear you. I can be taught on all those different things, but infidelity, I think the reason that's so harsh is that plays on your mind for a very long time, because that's one thing that you can't undo. So I think that's why, that's the focus of our topic, but we want people to fully understand that that's not the end all forever relationship. It's like I said, trust does not start and end right there, because there are some incidents when people have been married 30, 40, 50 years and it's never been a case of infidelity.

Shannon (25:07.392)
It does.

Yeah.

Shannon (25:25.738)
Right, yep. Yep.

Shun (25:26.115)
Never but it could have been plenty other things. So I just wanted to bring that up, you know in my case You know my love for my husband shannon is just as strong as the day we met However, I feel the years of hurt and not always him because you know I had my days too But I feel like you know all the pain that we caused each other like I said because I had my days We had our ups and downs tour mall. It shipped away shannon at who I truly am And I don't think i'm the same person anymore

Shannon (25:35.745)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (25:53.324)
Right.

Shun (25:53.517)
And I probably won't ever be that free trust and spirit I was before life just happened to us, you know, but there is not another person on this earth that I'd rather spend my life with. So that's why we're here. And that's why I'm certain that my husband will never hurt me in that way again, nor will I betray his trust, you know, because that's the thing. That's the one thing we got to, we got to pin depend on an anchor on to keep us grounded. You know what I'm saying?

Shannon (26:04.972)
Yeah. Yeah.

Shannon (26:12.718)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (26:18.848)
Right. Right.

Shun (26:21.019)
And it continues to keep me. So when I do have the wonder in mind, when I do be like, like you just said, well, he went in the phone to see me in the garage, is he on his phone? know, those are the things that we got to tune out and we got to, we got to let that grace cover us. That grace that we decided to give him, what I decided to give him when I stayed, that's the grace that got to keep us through the years to come.

Shannon (26:23.054)
Yeah.

Shannon (26:28.78)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (26:40.482)
Yeah That is that is true and understand that if you do decide like we mentioned last week If you do decide you want to keep this thing going? Really keep it going. I mean The comeback is truly the comeback you're you're willing to put in the work to keep it going Whatever that means whatever it takes now when you hear people say hey, you know my marriage ended because he cheated on me

Shun (27:03.035)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (27:11.19)
Hmm, is that really why it ended? Dun dun dun. Right, yeah, yeah.

Shun (27:15.107)
Right. Is that what you want to? yeah, is that what you wanted to do in? Absolutely. So that's why I say I let my grace the grace that I decided to give when I came back I let that grace continue to cover me and that's pretty much all I have have on that topic

Shannon (27:31.552)
All right, nice wrap up. wrap it up. I'm sorry.

Shun (27:33.731)
All right, then. Nope. We didn't wrap it up. I'm gonna wrap it up right now No, it's okay. I was giving my last point of view on my topic the wrap-up is for everybody, okay, When it comes to the title of come to come back we'll wrap up with this Survive in infidelity is never an easy decision But it's definitely a personal one as Shannon stated on last week It's not always as simple as walking away and sometimes it is

Shannon (27:44.638)
Okay, okay

Shun (28:03.969)
My marriage folded the first time because we weren't mentally equipped to deal with that, you know And I nor should I think we have stayed but luckily I think we too old not even care this time around. So i'm not proud Nor ashamed of what we put each other through in the past shannon. I'm just simply saying I don't know if it's right or wrong. I don't know if you walk away if you say i'm simply saying shannon Your love is your business

Shannon (28:11.875)
Right.

Ha

Shun (28:30.947)
And the only ones who should have a say in that like you said about the couple the guy waiting for the lady all those years the only people who got to say so in that it's her her partner and god and as I say often a Three-fold core. It's not easily broken. So my final answer shannon If the comeback is possible. Yeah, it is i'm living proof But what that looks like in each individual situation?

Shannon (28:41.646)
That's right.

Shannon (28:51.63)
Yeah.

Shun (28:57.315)
It's completely based on how we handle our own healing. It's totally up to us. Just like you said, Shanna, is it over because I cheated or because he cheated? It's up to you. Your healing is your responsibility.

Shannon (29:09.134)
Yep.

That's right, beautiful. All right, that's your wrap up. Awesome. Okay, here we go. On to the sound off.

Shun (29:16.399)
That's my wrap up.

Shun (29:28.367)
Her sound off song of tonight comes from a group called Basic Black and it's titled Special Kind of Fool. I took y'all back to the Mick Cricks. Shannon, you don't know that one, do you? Baby, need you to log off in here and let the listeners know what it's all about. Now, I have never asked you to come back with a comeback. I want you to come back next week, Shannon, and tell them what you think about it. I took y'all Special Kind of Fool.

Shannon (29:41.454)
No, maybe if I heard it.

Shannon (29:51.47)
Yeah, yeah. Special kind of fool. What year was that?

Shun (29:58.189)
Now baby probably the 80s. I probably still in the sandbar. See that's when you and jimmy was making babies. Okay, that's back then Special kind of fool. I just happen to be a I just happen to be a music lover and baby I can dig it from what he and i've been going through i'm like, yeah I was definitely his special kind of fool honey, but the group is basic black So I know like I said, I took y'all back to the mccricks on that one So young people that's definitely out of your league But no matter how old or young you may be if you experience love

Shannon (30:00.554)
okay, okay.

Shannon (30:07.202)
Okay.

Shun (30:27.725)
and hardship in any relationship, you'll appreciate it. So go put it on, pop it on and take a listen, y'all. Soon as we get off, I want y'all to ponder this topic, pop that song on and tell me if I nailed it. Y'all email Shannon, let her know. What they can send it to Shannon.

Shannon (30:41.294)
Yes, send us send us your comments at wifeyandbabymama at gmail.com Once again wifeyandbabymama at gmail.com

Shun (30:56.793)
All right, and real quick before you take us out miss Shannon, can I let you all know that I got a call from a network this week and I would like for you all to pray for me pray for me and then I need you to head to YouTube on Mondays at 7 p.m. Any Monday you so choose at 7 p.m. That's when they're gonna be clocking my numbers click on games family production

Shannon (31:06.03)
Shannon (31:09.931)
Yeah.

Shannon (31:22.86)
All right.

Shun (31:24.647)
And check out episode one of broken love We're gonna air it there Mondays at seven we're gonna air just one episode those numbers get ran up and we get to do our thing and also You can find now on that same channel. It's called gains family production You can find shannon eyes titles for the week for our podcast So if you missed it if you wasn't online if you're not on social media

Shannon (31:28.334)
Yes, once again, that's Mondays. Mondays at 7, right?

Shun (31:52.815)
We now have a new way for you to learn what the titles are show up early morning so y'all can get ready and be prepared to listen in. So please pray for us. Baby mama, pray for us. We can both retire. That's what we want and we can give y'all more of life and baby mama. While we're young and can enjoy it, we can give y'all some live shows. We can be around the country recording Hawaii.

Shannon (32:07.282)
Yes, that's what we want. While we're young, yeah, exactly. While we're young enough, yes.

Shun (32:21.339)
All right, baby mama take us out there

Shannon (32:24.152)
That's right. All right. Thank you all for joining and until next week.

Shun (32:32.717)
We love you all, bye.