Wifey and Baby Mama

Shun (00:36.182)
Hey, I'm Sean.

Shannon (00:38.007)
and I'm Shannon.

Shun (00:39.494)
and we're the host of Wifey and Baby Mama. Welcome, welcome, welcome family to Thursday night. We know it's football season, so you must be dedicated to be hanging in there with us. And we so appreciate you all, and we promise to make it worth your while. And to start that promise off right, we have another guest. We hope all of our guests know that they're special to us. But tonight, tonight's guest is epic.

Shannon (00:45.311)
Yeah.

Shannon (00:49.227)
Yeah.

Shannon (01:03.895)
NOOOOOOOOO

Shun (01:06.358)
We have our very first male guest, the premier of R&B in Indiana. Yeah! Yep, one of the best rib-making food slam brothers in this fine city of Buffalo. Jason, introduce yourself to the listeners.

Shannon (01:08.578)
Our very first, I can't believe that, y'all! First male guest, love it!

Shannon (01:21.645)
Oh my gosh, yeah

J Cannon (01:26.468)
What's up, what's up, what's up everybody. Thank you for having me be a part of this very, very epic podcast, Shannon and Sean, great family. Yeah, man, that's it, I'm ready. I'm ready, I'm glad to be a first.

Shannon (01:33.643)
Hehehe

Shannon (01:43.347)
Yes, and we are so happy we are so happy Jason you don't understand how many men we begged To come on and they refused so you're a brave soul You're a brave soul

Shun (01:43.394)
All right.

Shun (01:51.969)
I'm sorry.

Shun (01:55.766)
You are brave soul and Jason has some great cooking skills girls and now he married. Don't be trying to ask him to cook you out in a dinner, but I'm saying that to make a comparison that is a secret a lot of y'all don't know about Shanna. You know, she does not emphasize enough that she gets busy in the kitchen too baby. Finger licking, right? So, you know, just to go along with her break dancing, you know, as many layers to the choir than one of this duo here.

Shannon (02:01.934)
Oh, I know.

J Cannon (02:04.007)
Don't be doing that, Sean, now.

Shannon (02:16.344)
Oh yeah. Always. Yeah, always. You're so stupid. Oh yeah.

Shun (02:26.078)
Right? So really quickly though, before we get to the good stuff tonight, I want to remind you all to get your submissions in for the month of November for a chance to win your a hundred dollars. Um, and your copy of a love the world. Shit. No, now I'm hearing that's a really good book now is making some waves. So you might want to get your submissions in now. Let's do what we came to do every Thursday. We come to do this. So we're going to do it tonight.

Shannon (02:42.743)
That's a really good bug. You get that right.

Shun (02:54.274)
Tonight's episode is titled, Splitting the Bill, and we're not talking about money. In tonight's episode, we're gonna take a look at how blended families split chores, handle responsibility. When Shannon and I were getting the material ready for this season, we were like, man, we could use a guy. We could use a male opinion on some of this stuff, and look at God. But no one was brave enough, but Jason has answered the call. So when he contacted me saying,

Shannon (03:11.327)
Hehehehe

Yeah.

Shannon (03:19.747)
Yeah.

Shun (03:23.11)
I enjoy your show and I'm like, okay, I can weigh in on some of these topics. I'm like, okay, we got action. So Shannon and I, we're gonna put Jason right on the spot here, right on here. Now audience, Jason has committed to being our male counterpart whenever we really need a male opinion. So next season, Jason, we're gonna be calling on you. This season wraps up, we only have two more episodes. But season three, you're gonna see a lot more of Jason. And Shannon, how?

Shannon (03:42.642)
Hmm. Yeah.

J Cannon (03:48.22)
I'm with it. I'm with it. I'm with it.

Shannon (03:50.039)
For sure, for sure.

Shun (03:51.978)
How wild is it, Shannon, that we're wrapping up season two already?

Shannon (03:55.487)
I know it is wild and you know, I'm appreciative. It blows my mind the fact that we're doing this, the fact that we're doing it and we've been consistent and the fact that we're in 14 countries. I can't stress that enough. Denmark, I don't know if we welcomed you last week, but we welcome you this week if we didn't reach out. Thank you.

Shun (03:57.334)
Does that blow your mind?

Shun (04:13.282)
But welcome to Denmark. It's been a blessing, guys. And I guess time really flies when you're having fun. So Jason, don't go getting lost when the winter comes and getting amnesia now. Beginning of season three, we're gonna hunt you down. So Jason, as we discussed when you talked about coming onto the show with Shannon and I, you said I can run a class on blended families. So let's see how that goes. What does a day in your house

Shannon (04:21.942)
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J Cannon (04:24.592)
Oh no, I stay in the house. I'm in the house.

Shannon (04:29.923)
Hehehehe

J Cannon (04:33.618)
Ahem.

Shun (04:42.294)
look like as you've confessed to Shannon now, you know, you and have a listener. So you pretty much know what goes on in our house, right? And you know, you've heard what our order looks like in your opinion. What, what do you think order looks like in your house? What, what should roles be? Do you and your wife have specific chores and responsibility? Or is it just the trash just full? Take it out.

J Cannon (04:48.808)
Right, right, right.

J Cannon (05:04.26)
No, we have specific roles in our house. None of the females, the women in my house, my wife or my daughter. By the way, I have five kids. Two oldest are out the house. So three boys, two girls, one daughter. She is 24. One son, he's 20. He's away at William Pease College in North Carolina. Next son is 16.

Shun (05:15.922)
Okay, break down the rationales boys and girls.

Shannon (05:18.288)
Oh yeah.

Shun (05:21.388)
Okay.

Shun (05:26.125)
Okay.

J Cannon (05:34.36)
He is a junior in high school. Next one is she is 14. She is a freshman. And the last, but not least, which is a boy, he will be 12 on Sunday. So three boys, two girls, two are out the house, three are in the house. Like I said, my wife doesn't touch trash. Our daughter doesn't touch trash. It's the boy's responsibility. So yeah, splitting the bill.

Shannon (05:45.387)
Hehehe

J Cannon (06:03.664)
and our house is very, very kind of specific. Since I love to cook, my wife is an excellent cook, by the way. But I like to cook. You know what I mean? So I've kind of pushed her out the kitchen. And it's just more so because I like to cook, but I'd like to take some of that burden off of her. The roles that we have in our household are kind of self-appointed.

Shun (06:07.201)
Okay.

Shun (06:16.567)
Hehehehe

Shannon (06:17.227)
Hehehehe

J Cannon (06:31.408)
So it's not like, okay, you do this, you do that, whatever. Finances, that's on her, because I've been in about a $50,000 vacuum when we be living off the car. So we have very specific roles. Yeah, you know, our roles are kind of self-appointed. You know what I mean? We do discuss a lot of stuff.

Shannon (06:43.371)
Hahaha!

Shun (06:48.16)
Jason, we really are family, brother.

J Cannon (07:00.872)
that, you know, if I'm very honest, if I know my weakness, weakness for me, like I said, is finances. So that's her, that's her thing. Right, right, you know what I mean? My strength would be cooking, even though she does, you know, know how to cook. She takes the kids to school in the morning, if need be, picks them up if need be. But like I said, our roles are pretty, pretty much self-appointed unless, you know, we pick up each other's slack, so.

Shun (07:08.031)
Okay.

That's our strength. Okay.

Shun (07:30.39)
Right. I mean, yeah, it's fun. But I mean, it drives my husband nuts that the kids don't help with dishes, right? But that's my thing. I don't like everyone touching my dishes, right? My oldest daughter is definitely banned. I got so tired of tasting Dawn in my orange juice. You know what I'm saying? She done rest the dishes properly. So I don't like food with my dishes, you know?

J Cannon (07:31.08)
You know, it's fun. It's fun.

Shannon (07:42.168)
I agree. I agree.

Shannon (07:50.909)
Yeah, yeah, and they might do that on purpose

J Cannon (07:52.14)
Yo, listen, Sean, I'm gonna tell you this. I'm telling you, that's what I was just about to say. Shannon, that's what I was about to say. I swear these kids be making the dishes dirty. So we'd be like, you know what? Don't worry about it. So like our kids have, my wife has designated Dish Day. So Sundays is like everybody helps in the kitchen. Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, oldest, second oldest son.

Shun (07:56.358)
No, no, she's just really trying to get over with Shannon. She's just really trying to get over with.

Shannon (08:00.007)
Go ahead, Jason. Go ahead, Jason.

Shun (08:07.638)
That's hilarious.

J Cannon (08:20.756)
Thursday, Friday and Saturday is our daughter. So they clean the kitchen, one has the kitchen, one has the bathroom, but they all help. But like I say two, three years ago, you talking about Dawn and water. I mean, like you turn on the water, you would think you rinsing out the dishes like you just washed it. Or like we had spaghetti last week, why is there still spaghetti on this fork? But they've actually gotten a whole lot better because they...

Shannon (08:35.147)
Heheheheheheheheh

Shun (08:39.359)
I'm sorry.

Shun (08:44.462)
Hehehe

Shannon (08:45.079)
Hooray!

J Cannon (08:50.78)
My wife, we have expectations, but my wife is really, we both like to eat and no one likes to have stuff on their food. Men would be like, oh, it's a little bit of dirt and we'll scrub it off. My wife is like, absolutely not. She will throw it out and go buy another one. No.

Shannon (08:59.815)
I'm going to go to bed.

Shun (09:05.447)
I'm sorry.

Shun (09:09.142)
Now see, for me, you know, I don't fool with dishwashers. We had the designated days when I found that like the older two was bribing the little baby to do the dishes. So I'm like, why don't, every time I come in the kitchen, why is she washing dishes? She said, I don't mind mama. And I'm like, my poor baby. Then she got $70. I'm like, how do you have, she's like, oh, it was paying me $10. They was using my baby. So I had to get rid of the designated dish night. And you know what I said? I'll just do it. Like I did that to kind of,

Shannon (09:19.775)
Hehehehehe

Hahaha!

Shannon (09:26.903)
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Shun (09:38.39)
My husband's like, if you don't teach them, I'm like, yeah, but that's just my thing, you know? And it's like cooking. You know, I go crazy looking at dishes in my sink. So if I'm ready to cook, I don't like to see anything. So I just found it better. Just do it my way. Do it my style. And my girl from her, you know, having her side hustle, the baby from Washington, she's a master now too. So she'll get in, you know, kick in, help mom. But my oldest daughter is good with other things. Picking up the kids from school, taking them to school.

Shannon (09:41.105)
Hehehehe

Shannon (09:56.139)
Yeah.

Shun (10:05.382)
Even paying a bill, because Jason, we really like play cousins when it come to that. I'll be the one to buy me a new coat and be like, oh, I didn't pay the light bill, huh? I be like, Jamila, can you pay the light bill for your daddy before he get a notice? You know, okay, mama, so you better pay them. You know, you ain't watch them dishes. You don't watch, okay, you won't start back watching dishes. So, you know, we have our own, we have our own system, you know, but she's good for what she's good for. And just like, you know, we just, just like kids have different personalities.

J Cannon (10:08.456)
Man, listen. Man. Ha ha ha.

J Cannon (10:17.698)
Dave!

J Cannon (10:25.062)
That's my girl.

Shannon (10:25.323)
I'm going to go ahead and close the video.

Shun (10:35.042)
They're good at different things. You know, so you just can't place them all in a box. And Shannon, remember we spoke about, well, I guess about that last week. You just can't place them all in the box. But Jason, like in your house, if you have it designated in this, you know, I do find it runs, finds it runs smoother, but it just don't work for every kid because some kids just can't wash dishes. So now it doesn't seem fair that Jamila don't have dish night.

Shannon (10:45.236)
Right.

Shannon (10:55.221)
Yeah.

Shun (10:58.026)
But Johnny and Jay Brown also don't pay bills. So you know what I mean? They also don't help out with utilities or give kids rides to school. So I just kinda, you gotta just play it by ear, you know? Now.

J Cannon (11:08.532)
You get in where you fit in.

Shannon (11:08.551)
Yeah, and that's something to think about though, when you're a blended family and you, now I don't know Jason's, I don't know your situation, but when you've already, you've established your rules with your kids and they've established their rules with their kids and then you blend, you come together and maybe there's conflicting rules. I haven't experienced that myself, but I'm just throwing it out there to say, yeah, yeah.

J Cannon (11:14.48)
Thank you.

Shun (11:34.606)
because you only have one child.

J Cannon (11:34.876)
No. Right. No, our family has blended very well. Like when I say, to give you a little bit of background, my wife and I, we dated in high school. And like, you know, after graduation, she ended up going to the military and I, you know, went to school. And 2010, I got this random Facebook inbox was like,

Shannon (12:03.639)
Hehehehe

J Cannon (12:04.368)
Oh my God, is this Jason? I was like, wow. And since then, it's just been a great roller coaster ride. So, I mean, yeah, I mean, it has, it has. And it's, it's cumulated to this day, but I think I met the oldest at four, five, and then the youngest, she was two. So for the last almost 13 years, I've been in their lives and she's been in...

Shun (12:11.801)
A great roller coaster ride.

Shannon (12:15.277)
Yeah.

J Cannon (12:34.204)
you know, my children's lives. And so like I always said, and I tell people this, they are the most well-behaved children ever. You know what I mean? Because you know how some people, you have families and you be like, yeah, you're cool, but your kid is bad. I wanna beat him. You know, and I never had that. And when I say, like I love my own, there's never any line drawn between, there's no step, there's no anything.

Shannon (12:50.124)
Right, right.

J Cannon (13:02.628)
You know what I mean? So when anyone says, how many children do you have? I say five. You know, you may want to give me that dumb look, but you know what? Those are my children, you know, regardless of any fact. So I've been around them since they were young. So the rules I picked up from her and I just enforced them. You know, so there was no me making them my own because we had the same values, you know, my wife and I, we had the same values. So it just, God just had it where it just worked, you know.

Shun (13:02.83)
That's awesome.

Shannon (13:07.767)
Yeah.

Shun (13:10.798)
That's right.

Shannon (13:12.223)
Yeah, love it.

Shun (13:25.359)
awesome.

J Cannon (13:31.292)
We don't clash much on, we don't clash at all on when it comes down to raising them at all. Like I said, because we have the same values and we expect the same things. We expect greatness out of them. My wife has a military background, so, you know, punishment was different for them. Her punishment was different from my punishment, but, you know, it was still out of love, you know.

Shannon (13:47.82)
Yeah.

Shun (13:54.988)
It was still some measure of accountability though. It wasn't just a free fall, yeah.

Shannon (13:55.123)
Yeah, but that's right, right. But I answer a question that I come with is before you got married, did you know this? Did you know you both had the same parenting style or similar or complimentary parenting styles before you got married? And if not, what's that a discussion?

J Cannon (13:57.989)
Right, right, right.

J Cannon (14:20.376)
No, it wasn't more discussion. It wasn't a discussion. It was Experience so when you know we started coming together, which was you know, Christian was born 2011 so her and I reconnected in 2010 and It was just I You may take the how I knew The great parenting style she had is because when I first met all three of them

When I say they were the most well-behaved kids for a two, a four, and a six-year-old, most well-behaved, respectful. And I was like, wow. You know, one out of three is going to be breaking the window or pushing your TV over. But when I say three out of three were awesome, and I was like, and that was a testament to the type of woman she was, the type of values that she had in raising them. You know what I mean? She always put the kids first. And that was, to me, that was

Shannon (15:03.962)
Hehehehe.

Shun (15:04.363)
I'm sorry.

J Cannon (15:20.104)
That was wonderful. That was what mainly, I mean, besides the fact that we knew each other previously, but that was an adult mature attraction that I had towards her, is that she raised these children to be respectful. And they were kids. Like, I promise you, I couldn't even tell you how great they were. I'm not exaggerating whatsoever, but you know now they're older and they have their kids. We don't have any, we don't have...

Shannon (15:39.2)
Hehehe

J Cannon (15:48.904)
We don't have those out of, thank God. And like I say, I thank God that we don't have those other issues that other parents have. You know what I mean? We get frustrated within our own parenting, but then we literally have to sit back and be like, you know what, thank God that we don't have to deal with drugs or they hanging out late at night because all of our kids literally, they wanna be home. They don't wanna be any place else but home. You know what I mean? So.

Shannon (15:54.315)
Hehehehe

Shun (16:13.39)
I'm going to go to bed.

J Cannon (16:17.032)
It's just, it was really a testament to the type of woman that she was, and that was a great draw for me. But like I said, our parenting styles were pretty much the same. There was no real discussion. Like I said, it was just more so experience. I see what you're doing, you see what I'm doing, and we know it goes together. Yeah, yeah, it was a natural rhythm. Like.

Shun (16:33.666)
So it was just like a natural rhythm.

Shannon (16:37.171)
Yeah, and that's the thing for yeah, even with our you know our podcast and um, and We we're looking for a little bit of drama because a lot of people think you know Look at shannon and shawn everything's so easy. We know real life isn't this easy. And so jason everything that you're saying We know it's not that easy. Most people get in situations where the parenting style and there's conflict You know, so we need to talk about how do you deal with that? Because

Shun (16:37.718)
That's it.

Shun (17:01.697)
and

Shannon (17:06.039)
Shana Shannon or a dream love you girl, but we're not the norm We're not the norm just like Jason. I'm sure you

J Cannon (17:12.456)
Yeah, especially Sean.

Shun (17:15.426)
Whatever, Jason.

J Cannon (17:15.793)
Especially China.

Shannon (17:18.827)
But yeah, just understanding that hey, come on, we got to appeal to people who aren't this lovely and loving and Sending smooches and kisses to each other all day long

Shun (17:31.37)
Right, well, I can give you another side of that, not as far as raising children, but how I was raised. I think I'm very careful about not demanding my kids to run my house. Now, sure, chores should teach them responsibility and how to be independent when they're grown and on their own, how they should run a house. But I'm careful not to raise my children like my mother raised me. I don't make it like, this is what you were born to do. My mom made me wash dishes.

J Cannon (17:31.528)
Yeah.

Shannon (17:34.684)
Okay.

Shannon (17:55.583)
Yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh, yes. Yeah, oh yeah. Oh yeah, we were slaves. We were literally their slaves. That's what we were.

Shun (18:00.254)
Made me comb hair, made me take out garbage, made me vacuum, you know, whatever.

J Cannon (18:01.652)
Yeah.

Shun (18:07.334)
Yeah, but you know while she lived her best life, you see what i'm saying? And it wasn't one of two, you know, one or two of us. Okay. My mom had eight children and I had three step siblings It's 11 of us, right? So it's like bro. If you want to live like that Um, shut it down. Shut up shop, baby. Dry it up. Stop it up. Whatever you need to do But no, she constantly had him like I got babysitters at home. Like like you said slaves

J Cannon (18:21.433)
basketball team.

J Cannon (18:26.869)
Hahahaha!

Shannon (18:27.287)
I'm going to go to bed.

Shannon (18:33.199)
Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.

Shun (18:34.994)
It's a difference if you're working two or three jobs because you have so many kids and you have to provide. No, you're in the club, you're chilling, you're out in the streets. Like I think for me, that is very wrong, you know? And everywhere we went, the older two or three, it's like, can we go to the football game? Yeah, if you take your brothers and sisters with you. And we're like, no, we don't want to take them with us. What you doing? Oh, I'm going out to the club. So I'm very careful not to treat my children that way. I resented my mother for that.

J Cannon (18:38.292)
Right.

Shannon (18:42.465)
Right, right. Yes, yes.

J Cannon (18:53.233)
Yeah, yeah.

Shun (19:03.586)
for a very long time. Because if I watched you work two jobs, three jobs that I would respect, like I'm helping my mom out. And that's how I think baby girl looks at me. Like my other two sisters is pitiful, they ain't doing nothing. So let me help mom out. And I'll be like, J-Bron, what are you doing? You know, I'm gonna watch her do, she's like, no, mom, you worked all day. So I'm very careful to make her understand that's not your job. But thanks as a kid for helping me out. You know, and I'll give her $10, babe. Thank you. She'll put it back in my purse. Mama, you don't owe me nothing.

Shannon (19:12.936)
Yeah.

J Cannon (19:26.76)
right.

Shannon (19:29.759)
Heheheheh

J Cannon (19:31.172)
Okay.

Shun (19:32.686)
That lets me know that I'm raising that kid right. Because I felt like I was owed a lot of compensation, okay? And then some.

Shannon (19:33.427)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right, right.

J Cannon (19:39.188)
Yeah, you know what, we, Sean, we kind of had to, we grew up in the same kind of era. And although my upbringing wasn't the same as yours, like I was a single child with my mom. So I was the only child. And she, my mother worked all the time. So my godmother was the one who raised me. So my godmother would say she birthed them, but I raised them. So my godmother, I was with her the majority of the time. And so women,

Shun (19:52.621)
Yeah.

J Cannon (20:07.484)
especially for men, try to, they can only teach us the side that women can teach us. There was no, you know, my dad wasn't around. So it was me and my cousin. So we were expected to wash the dishes, take out the trash. And I had cousins who they had that slave household where, you know, and I'm not even gonna lie, the remote will be two seats down. I will call somebody from the back of the house and be like, yo, can you hand me that remote? You know.

Shannon (20:35.641)
Yep, to go get it.

J Cannon (20:37.488)
We you know, we have that we have that sometime, you know what I mean? And I think that's just one of the things of being able to be a parent. That's like, you know, because we had to do it. So, you know, that's one of the little caveats of being a parent. But I do agree with you that a child should not have to do adult things. They should be taught responsibilities. Like you said, if mom or dad is working two or three jobs, then yes, you have to take care of your siblings, you know, because, you know.

Shun (21:03.738)
or even just clean your own room. I shouldn't be at 17, 15, 20 coming to clean your room. That's not me demanding. That's something you should know how to do because if you don't keep a clean room, you won't keep a clean house. Now it's things that I definitely think should be instilled, but to force, I just think that's all wrong. And the sad part is that happened with my mom and I'm almost 50. I still see it going today and it's just a sad man. It's just a sad occasion. It's a sad affair.

J Cannon (21:06.405)
Right, right.

J Cannon (21:10.309)
Right, right.

J Cannon (21:15.324)
Right, right.

Shannon (21:15.627)
Right.

J Cannon (21:19.142)
R-right.

J Cannon (21:34.054)
And that's why we gotta break those type of traumas. You know what I mean? And it goes on.

Shannon (21:36.576)
Yeah, we do.

Shun (21:37.01)
So that's what Shannon and I are here to do. We're hoping that people are listening to these. And even if you have seven, eight, nine, 10 children or five at the age of 30, you still have time to turn around and get it right. Stay out the club and raise your kids because those kids are gonna resent you. And then what are they gonna teach their children?

Shannon (21:40.569)
Open.

J Cannon (21:54.696)
Right, the same thing, the same generational traumas. Yeah, and it's funny because we think, my wife and I, we're like, we spoil these kids because just for instance, we've been sick for the last two weeks. So we had to go clean the younger two boys' room. Well, she did, cause I was like, I'm not doing it. So like I said, my wife has that military background and sometimes she'll be like, you know what? I'm tearing everything up and y'all gonna clean it up.

Shannon (22:05.471)
Hehehehe

J Cannon (22:22.516)
But we literally tried to have different approaches on how to handle them. I was raised where my mom didn't say, I love you at all. But I knew her love was showing by she worked. Those type of parents that'd be like, oh, if I didn't feed you, if I didn't put clothes on you, I would not say I love you. But I tell my kids all the time, I love you, I love you, I love you. They hate me. But they'll appreciate it. So no, I totally agree.

Shun (22:31.33)
Wow.

J Cannon (22:51.544)
But yeah, she's like, I think we spoil them because we do a lot, but we want them to have what we didn't have in moderation. But yeah, sometimes it'd be drama like, yo, what are you doing? And I just, I give them the look and they just like, oh man, it was something that happened today. And we just, we had to talk to both of them. Like y'all both did the exact same thing. No communication between them whatsoever, but y'all did the exact same.

Shun (23:00.514)
Get it. Totally get it.

Shun (23:07.452)
I'm sorry.

J Cannon (23:20.764)
dumb thing. But you know, we talk to them. You know, we talk to them like, yo, you cannot, you can't do this. This world is too dangerous. You can't do this. Don't, don't let it happen again. You know what I mean? And we try not to hold grudges and just let the past be the past. You know, forget but never forgive, but never forget type mentality.

Shun (23:40.928)
Right. Well, Jenny got anything else you want to add?

Shannon (23:45.567)
No, that's excellent.

Shun (23:47.742)
It was, I think we had a pretty well-rounded conversation tonight. And I'm elated to have you, Jason and Em, I have a male opinion. Cause like, you know, we got the sweet, we give the, you know, the nice opinion, but we have to have a male way in and it's crazy because your values and the way you say your home is ran the way you do things. It's totally different than what my husband was saying in this house. So it's just great to have a refreshing opinion, you know? No, we don't. He ain't got no easel.

Shannon (23:54.292)
Yay!

J Cannon (24:09.56)
Jimmy don't play boy. Jimmy don't play. That's my man.

Shannon (24:14.412)
And will Brazil either so that's another you know, we got two crazy people

Shun (24:16.83)
They have no ease up. So it's good to have a good calm mellow side Yeah, it's good to have a good calm mellow guy, you know offer his opinion, you know And I'm excited, you know So I want to leave the crowd in the audience with this if you would have to say What's more important from tonight's topic? It should be that there's really no set way to run every family or every home Figure out what works best

J Cannon (24:21.676)
laughter

J Cannon (24:25.414)
I'm sorry.

Shannon (24:30.377)
Hehehehe

Shannon (24:41.163)
right.

Shun (24:43.842)
for the people assigned to you under your roof, right? Leave everybody else's strategy to the wind. And moms, unfortunately, when no one else wants to do it, it's us. It's always us. Because I'm not gonna look at the stuff on the floor. I'm not gonna look at the larger too many times and figure out who Daisy is. But for the most part, we need to try to remember just to keep our own rules, keep our own regulations, and don't compare to anyone else. Just find out what works for you and let it flow.

Shannon (24:56.819)
Yeah, it's how it says.

Shannon (25:14.431)
Yeah, but also remember too that you know have these discussions before you join in this Union because that's what a lot of people don't do they don't have these discussions up front And then they get in a situation they get in a marriage they get in this whatever and then they're all shocked and all You know, oh my god. I didn't realize you Operated this way. No, you saw it you chose to ignore it because you were choosing

Shun (25:15.014)
and

Shun (25:28.268)
Right.

Shannon (25:43.764)
You're you're so hell-bent on having this relationship exactly so

Shun (25:46.826)
getting in a relationship. Or she gave him melatonin the first night and they just was real good. And then y'all get married and she bring baby kids back to the wet reception. You know, they, they twerking down the aisle. We like, wait a minute, these ain't the same kids I met. Ha ha ha.

Shannon (25:59.1)
Right.

Shannon (26:03.527)
Right, so just make sure you're open and honest and you're having these discussions and you might not have a you know Sean Shannon Jason situation where everything looks great and if two people on the outside They're like you guys got to be lying about something and no we're not yes. We're we're good in what we do Sean and Shannon have always been good. I don't Jason and his wife, you know, so I'm just saying

You know, it won't always be that way, but make sure you have the conversations. Have the conversations upfront. Have the conversations so you know. All right. On to our red. You know, okay.

Shun (26:31.298)
Yeah, it won't always be that simple. So have the conversations and be sure you're right.

Shun (26:42.894)
All right, so we can move into tonight's Red Line. Absolutely.

Shun (26:49.954)
Alright tonight's red line is pick up the tab or pay the tip Family when it comes to splitting the bill the bill of family life The most important thing is being sure you're not putting too much weight on the other people in your home If I cooked you take out the garbage if I cook you do the dishes if husband gets adventurous You know and go in there and he will sometimes I'll say okay. I'll take out the garbage I do the dishes, you know, even though what I cook I may run the whole thing

It is whatever. No one is above any duty in my home. I do like what you said, Jason. Men only touch the, I hear that in a lot of homes, but my husband happened to work from sun up to sun down. I ain't waiting to get home and take the garbage out. So if I gotta do it, I gotta do it, you know? But that's just the rule and that's just the way my house goes. Now my oldest can't boil, you know, she can't boil a pot of water, but she does pay expenses, you know? My youngest can't drive, but she will walk the little one to the park, you know? Give me some quiet time to cook or record, whatever.

Shannon (27:32.151)
Hehehehe

Shannon (27:42.391)
Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

Shun (27:50.182)
If you go for dinner, husband and wife, boyfriend and girlfriend, and you don't have enough for the bill, leave the tip. And whatever we do, just make sure no one person is catching all the weight. When things are distributed evenly, life just flows a little better. And that's my red line for tonight.

Shannon (28:07.057)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (28:13.219)
Absolutely. Any comments, Jason?

J Cannon (28:18.44)
No, she, I mean, she hit the nail on the, the hammer on the nail, you know. You know, but you know, me and you have conversations. So, you know, we, we the same, you know, we the same in a lot of ways, you know what I mean? And how we, what we expect from our kids, but you know, and please don't.

Shannon (28:21.125)
Hehehe

Shun (28:22.19)
usually do Jason thank you though

Shannon (28:23.947)
HA

Shun (28:31.116)
I'm sorry.

Shannon (28:31.836)
Yeah, yeah.

J Cannon (28:43.684)
because I had to grow into this position of head of household. And that's something that I think that I had to be honest with myself is that I had to grow into this position because I didn't have a figure of what a husband should be. You know, I saw Bill Cosby, you know, I saw, but I saw the good, right, you know, I saw, well, I saw, I saw, let me say this. I saw Dr. Huxtable.

Shun (28:48.658)
Most men do, brother. And that's no dig. Most men do.

Shannon (28:49.76)
Wow, wow.

Shannon (29:03.639)
Hmm, that was wrong

J Cannon (29:13.06)
I saw Dr. Oxtable. You know, and I, yeah, I saw Dr. Oxtable.

Shannon (29:13.767)
Okay, okay, that's okay. There you go. There you go

Shun (29:14.338)
to write. Now I'm gonna do the good and the evil here. Hold on now. Build my man. Innocent and Prove your guilty. I don't believe a lot of that stuff. Here's a simple fact. If it happened to me, I ain't waiting 30 years to tell nobody. But go ahead.

J Cannon (29:19.703)
Yay.

Shannon (29:22.191)
Okay. All right, so.

J Cannon (29:28.544)
That's true. But I'ma just say what I saw. Yeah, I saw the TV, you know, the husband. And that's what I always wanted. Like, I'm not even gonna lie. I always wanted to get married and have a family. But when it happened, I was not prepared because I didn't have those male figures that say, okay, you know what? You need to do this and you need to do that and this and that. And my wife was very, very patient with me. And it's still helped me to this day to be.

Shannon (29:29.589)
Okay, well, we'll disagree to get this agree

Shun (29:30.83)
I'm sorry.

Shannon (29:40.656)
Oh.

Shannon (29:48.959)
Yeah, yeah.

J Cannon (29:57.648)
a better husband, a better father, a better man. And just like I'm doing the same thing with her, you know. She was more prepared for, I would say prepared as a woman for the position of wife than I was as husband. And it was just who I had to mature. You know what I mean? I really had to mature.

Shannon (30:16.759)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (30:17.226)
that's bigger you to recognize it.

Shannon (30:19.327)
Yeah, it's powerful. That is so powerful, Jason, for you to even say that. So many men would not say that. What you just said, those words are so powerful. And I hope a lot of our listeners around the globe take heed to that, that you were brave enough to even say that.

J Cannon (30:30.312)
Yeah.

J Cannon (30:38.033)
It's... you have to...

J Cannon (30:43.928)
Yeah, we have, as men, we have to be honest with ourselves and with our feelings and with our emotions. And we have to be able to trust our mates, trust our lifelong mates with everything. With everything. And that's a process that I had to go through with really, when I say trusting, I mean like, trusting her and being able to say, you know what? I'm feeling this way. You know what I mean?

Shannon (30:55.732)
Yeah.

J Cannon (31:09.424)
And not just, it's not that infidelity trust or that worldly trust. It's just that deep down like, hey babe, I'm broken type trust. And we need to, I need you to be there to help me. You know what I mean? And once you open that door, really open that door, then it really gives, it really gave her an opportunity to be there for me as I'm there for her. You know what I mean? I think a lot of men need to recognize that. I mean.

Shannon (31:36.288)
Yeah.

J Cannon (31:37.898)
We in this for the long haul. I told her, I said, I'm not getting divorced. Somebody gotta go. Somebody going.

Shannon (31:42.642)
Hehehehe. Ahh.

Shannon (31:47.787)
Yeah.

J Cannon (31:51.38)
Where's Sean go? No problem.

Shannon (31:51.499)
Thank you, Jason. All right, so now, yeah, it was. So now here we are, we're at the end of our show. We are a little longer tonight than normally, but that's okay. You know, it's been a good show and we're on to our last segment, which is the fictional family I am feeling. And the fictional family I'm feeling tonight is in honor of Suzanne Summers. We know we lost her.

Shun (31:52.642)
That was awesome, Jason.

Shannon (32:20.203)
She has passed for those of you who know Suzanne from You know threes company We loved her there but another show she was on was step-by-step which just so happened to be about blended family Which is what we're talking about, you know, that's our show So the scene I'm talking about tonight is where the foster Lambert family, which is the fictional family foster Lambert

J Cannon (32:37.32)
families.

Shannon (32:51.023)
You have Suzanne Summers and Patrick Dov the who are the stars? They're folding clothes on the kitchen table as their kids are running and giving them orders on what to do We need you to scream my calls. We need you to let me know if Billy job Whoever call, you know, whatever I need you to not answer this one and do this and then another kid comes in It says I need a tuna sandwich. Can you make me a tuna sandwich?

And while they're busy doing all the chores, it's like, hold up. Wait a minute. So Suzanne summer says, you know, we need a family meeting, another family meeting. So they sit down for this family meeting and she's like, you know, asking her son who's a brilliant dude, you know, what's your IQ and he has a high IQ, 180 something. And she says, why can't you make your own tuna sandwich?

He's like, oh, I guess I can and then the other son her husband's son her bonus son Yeah, he asked his son, you know, how old are you and he says I think I'm 19 I think I think I'm 19 and the father's like yeah you are you are and he's like, okay

Guess I am and so what can you do for you in the 19? I was like, so what are you saying? You're not gonna do anything for us anymore we're you know, here we are we've gotten used to you all doing these things and You know Patrick Duffy says Unless you're bleeding in jail or you need a bus to leave this family forever You don't need to talk to us

Shun (34:36.717)
I'm gonna go.

J Cannon (34:37.664)
Hahaha!

Shannon (34:40.407)
And so one of the kids says can I ask a question and pastor duffy says Are you bleeding and the child says no and he says then we're out of here So that is the fictional family i'm feeling for susan summers who I loved I hate that we lost her but also that is a true representation of blended families and how You know, you got to operate you got to come to the rules setting the rules, you know Yeah

Shun (35:09.394)
Absolutely. Great fictional family. And R.I.P. Queen, I love 3's Company, was actually one of the best shows ever. She gave me life. So rest in peace, rest easy. And Jason, we want to thank you for joining us.

J Cannon (35:11.784)
Sure.

Shannon (35:14.644)
Hehehe

Yeah, yeah, rest in peace.

J Cannon (35:24.22)
I appreciate the invite. I really do appreciate the invite. It was, you know, I like giving my perspective, but y'all, the podcast, like I said, I've been listening and y'all are two dope women who have done great things. And I'm glad to be a part of this. And I look forward to future episodes of next season.

Shannon (35:31.479)
Hehehe

Shannon (35:37.586)
Oh.

Shun (35:44.962)
Thank you, Jason.

Shannon (35:45.503)
Yeah, thank you. Thank you so much. All right, until next week. And our next winners, love you all.

Shun (35:52.354)
Love you all.

J Cannon (36:12.307)
You want ice to cake?