Wifey and Baby Mama

Shun (00:36.524)
Hey, I'm Sean.

Shannon (00:38.124)
Hi, and I'm Shannon.

Shun (00:40.031)
And we're the host of wifey and baby mama. Happy Thursday family and happy Thursday, baby mama. Welcome back family. Welcome back. I know we missed you guys last week. I know you missed us too. We hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving with your family as we did. And it's always something to be thankful for. And we certainly hope that you guys found it. And as we quickly approach the end of season four.

Shannon (00:45.87)
Happy Thursday! Yes!

Shannon (00:55.468)
He he he he.

Shannon (01:02.658)
Yeah.

Shun (01:07.297)
We are grateful and thankful that you guys are hanging in there with us as strong as ever. Shannon, you read the new countries that joined us and we're so elated just to have you guys and to all our faithful listeners who've been with us since the beginning. We couldn't do it every week without you. So that's what we're thankful for this year with so many other things.

Shannon (01:12.334)
Yes, we are.

Shannon (01:25.76)
Yeah, yes we are.

Shun (01:28.513)
Yeah, so thank you for making Thursday our favorite day of the week So for so many reasons, all right, we were thankful but we're gonna do what we came to do and tonight I think is my favorite Topic of the season thus far, you know, we will be discussing one hit wonders, but we ain't talking about music now. So We will be discussing couples who have been unlucky in love and for whatever reason

One time was all it took to count them out. You ready baby mama?

Shannon (02:03.778)
I am ready, yes.

Shun (02:05.563)
Let's go. Let's go. So again for the second week in a row I'm going to shock you all by not having a personal story to tell One hit wonder was not going down in my book. Okay. I love love way too much for that What about you baby mom you ever been close to being a one-hit wonder though?

Shannon (02:24.692)
yeah, yeah, there were so many times, well, I shouldn't say so many, but a couple of times in life where, you know, I was just content, not for a lot of reasons that we're gonna touch on tonight as to why certain folks are one hit wonders. But I remember going, and people thought I was crazy, but I went, you know, five to six years without dating and.

you know, seeing anybody and, you know, being that person that was okay, being by myself and not really sure if I could, you know, dig a little deep into the why. I'm sure I could come up with a whole lot of stuff, but it was just comfortable for me at times throughout my life. And probably another reason why

you know, I waited so late to get married because, you know, not that I was a one hit wonder, but it was just okay. And then in some of the situations we're going to touch on tonight about these one hit wonders, that could be the case for a lot of them, you know, and then other deeper traumatizing reasons why some folks are one hit wonders, but let's get into it.

Shun (03:48.373)
Right. And so as I'm listening to you talk, I've been there of course, you know with Jimmy being gone for years for five is the first five or so years, you know, I was alone, but we were married, you know, he was there. I wasn't, you know, by myself. I just wasn't dating for obvious reasons. I was married then eventually I got lonely because again, I'm just human and you know, love, I'm just a person that I needs. I need to be needed. I need to give love. I like to give love. So what you're touching on what I went through, like you said, is not

Shannon (03:54.7)
yeah.

Shun (04:17.133)
to our points tonight, know, what we want to discuss tonight, you know, so we had both went periods of time, very long periods without, you know, being in love or being lucky in love, but it was my choice. Sometimes what we want to discuss tonight is people are so damaged, you know, it's not my choice. Now I can say, I believe had I met Jimmy before my other encounters, we call them encounters, if my little puppy love throwbacks.

Shannon (04:18.902)
Right, right.

Shun (04:43.991)
Before I even moved to Buffalo, you know, I may be on that list Shannon I'm gonna tell you because I had several sexual encounters before we met and look how stuck I was once I you know I was with him but I experienced other men So can you imagine if he was my first, know the girl it would have been all kinds of Craziness going on in my head, you know So I'm this is why I'm a firm believer that everything happens for a reason because I think I would have just literally been stuck on him and I probably would have been one hit wonder to not with him just going away with

Shannon (04:59.384)
Yeah.

Shannon (05:03.649)
Right, right.

Shun (05:13.687)
with me saying like, if I can't have him, I don't want anybody. I think that would have happened if I didn't know what it was like to experience other men, you know? And I'm not saying by any means that that's right. I'm just telling you what happened and how my life went, you know? But what I'm curious to know is if this one hit wonder status occurs out of pain, you know, or fear and people trust we try it until we were blue in the face to get a guess on this topic.

Shannon (05:19.586)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right, right. Yeah.

Shun (05:41.787)
One because neither of us had any direct input personally on the subject like shannon just said and I said we chose to go years without love or wanting love or even desire or or seeking it but What about when you just don't have it when you're just fearful of it if you're in pain or if you're just scared if you're just hurt and done And on the other hand is is what we always say here on wife and baby mama The reason we wanted to guess is experience is the best teacher. So it's always good to have guests who's

Shannon (05:53.442)
and

Shannon (06:01.816)
Yeah.

Shannon (06:09.844)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (06:11.699)
Walked in these shoes, but you know, what can we do? So we would have loved to have someone but and not speculate however with the audience that we target and That tune in weekly we thought it was too important of a topic not to touch on, know with or without again So we're gonna give it our best shot. All right, baby mom

Shannon (06:14.22)
Yeah. Yeah.

Shannon (06:30.316)
Yeah, and we are. for me, of course, Sean, one of our previous guests is a perfect example of what we're talking about tonight. And that's my sister. was on several, or last season. But she was married. She married her college sweetheart. And my sister had never dated.

anyone before she went off to school and because we grew up very strict Pentecostal kids and people will probably laugh they'll say that don't mean anything yeah for me and my older sister my brother that didn't mean nothing we were like Pentecostal what are we gonna do what we want you know whatever but for some reason my youngest sister she did not she was strict

by the book and it's like, no, I'm doing this the right way. And she was so many years younger than us as well, nine years younger than me, almost seven years younger than my baby brother. So she kind of came up by herself. anyway, she didn't meet her husband or her first boyfriend ever until college. And they dated all throughout college, being abstinence.

waiting until they got married, did the whole thing the right way or whatever, and stayed married for almost 20 years. And then they got divorced. And now they've been divorced, I don't know, not 20 years, I'm sorry, maybe 10 years. And she's never dated. She refused to date anyone. She refused to put herself back out there because that was it for her. She really thought by...

you know, doing things well, I can't really speak for her. can my my view on what she went through is that she really thought that was it. And because it didn't work out, nothing else will work out. And I talked to her till I'm blue in the face if I could get blue in the face being a black chick. But I talked to her so yeah, we can. And I tell her, I said, you cannot base that one experience on

Shun (08:44.205)
We can

Shannon (08:54.854)
every man in the world. I said, you have to experience different things to see, you know, what else is out there. And she just refused to do it. She doesn't want the hurt again. She really thinks that that one experience is every man and no one is going to work for her. And it's sad to me.

Shun (08:57.143)
That's right.

Shun (09:19.971)
Wow.

Shannon (09:23.074)
But she's good, you know, she's living her best life. You know, they have a daughter together. I mean, everything from the outside looking in, you know, I don't live with her. don't see what she, if she cries herself to sleep at night or anything like that. And after 10 years, she probably doesn't. But I just really would love for her to at least date, you know.

Shun (09:42.307)
Bye.

Shannon (09:49.012)
You don't have to get married again right away, but just go on a date. Just one. I beg of you, just go on one date. She's a beautiful girl. I mean, she gets hit on all the time. All levels and walks of life, they're chasing her down and her answer is no.

Shun (09:49.485)
Right.

Shun (10:10.755)
Wow. Now I also know two people, you know, real life who have one hit wonder pass, you know, and it amazes me because again, I love love far too much not to experience all that it has to give, right? I'm just simply too dope girl to keep all this to myself. So I, you know, I don't know. I couldn't do that. I don't know. But not to let someone experience me, I think would be a crime. Now I know that may sound conceited, you know, a little funny.

But not in any way, Shanna, am I trying to be comical here? I'm goal oriented, you know? I love like no other. I'm faithful girl and I can dance, okay? So why would I sit myself on the shelf? You know what I'm saying? Even when the love of my life and myself weren't on the same page for years, like I just said, Shanna, some volunteer, some involuntary, but some was beyond my control, some was by choice. But nevertheless, I didn't deprive myself because we were not on good terms or.

Shannon (10:50.53)
Hehehehe

Shannon (11:00.33)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (11:08.181)
We decided sometimes it was over. Yeah, it hurts for a while But then I think about what I deserve, you know And I align myself to receive it and as a woman shannon It's not ideal to go out searching in gawk and we talked about that on several episodes, you know We don't chase, know women are to be sought after you know women are to be you know courted but You can't live like an old lady in a shoe is what I tell my people that I know go through this and expect love to find you either You know what i'm saying? so

Shannon (11:12.396)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (11:25.996)
Right.

Shannon (11:36.226)
Yeah.

Shun (11:36.695)
When I asked those people in these situations, you know, I got different responses. So were you sad? Were you too hurt to move on? Some were fearful. Some were sad. You know, some had a feeling that that pain and disappointment, like I just can't go through it again. And one person, Shannon was just plain bitter, you know, because she was a really good woman and partner and the guy still cheated on her and broke her, you know, just like your sister. She did it the right way, you know, but I tried to tell her.

Shannon (11:55.416)
Hmm. Mm-hmm.

Shannon (12:01.39)
Wow.

Shun (12:05.513)
Every man is not the enemy, you know, no matter what the reason It you know, it was really just heartbreaking to know that these people Like sounding something like your sister were more than likely to spend the rest of their life alone And that's just a sad affair to me, especially when they're dope, you know, they're dope people

Shannon (12:08.013)
Right.

Shannon (12:18.71)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember, you know, experiencing my first heartbreak, you know, of course, high school. It's like, people say, there's puppy love or whatever. And now I look back on it I laugh. man, me and my girl Laverne used to cut up laughing about how I reacted to being dumped. But the thing about it is he did dump me, meaning...

Shun (12:33.581)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (12:44.429)
I'm sorry.

Shannon (12:48.608)
He said, I don't want to cheat on you. And we're 16, you know? He's like, I'd rather just move on than to try to play these two relationships when the other girl is who we wanted because she was put now and I wasn't.

Shun (12:54.413)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (13:03.437)
She put now honey, that's always the story of our lives at that age. But go ahead. I tell my daughters, you know, I got three guys. Well, you know, we got three dogs. We share these babies. We got daughters and we tell them that listen if that's what they want to jump ship for baby. Trust me. You dodging a bullet. Let them move on. But I'm sorry. Go ahead.

Shannon (13:13.134)
Mm-hmm, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Exactly. No, yeah, yeah. And so I broke down, I did this whole soap opera routine with the crying and Lord, whatever. And then I did not date for probably until I was, I don't know, 19. I just went through a period of, I wasn't bitter. I just...

I was hurt, I was also, yeah, maybe. but I also be, yeah, but I also became real selfish and just all about me. I had a good time, you know, we would, you know, go to Atlanta and party or whatever, but as far as the dating and all of that, I was like, no, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. And, you know,

Shun (13:49.987)
Fear, I think it's fear. Fear maybe, you don't want to feel that again. You don't want to feel that again.

Shannon (14:18.382)
My sister doesn't party but I kind of feel like she's doing a little bit of what I did but on a whole nother level meaning When they say do you do you?

Shun (14:29.699)
She's just all about her. She's just intertwined and all about her wrapped up in her. I get it. But did you hear me? It was fear. It fear. was fear. Did you hear me trying to put that word in your mouth? Did you hear me trying to make you answer? Okay, because I'm trying to make my answer your answer, okay? Because I went through a similar situation with that, Shannon. This boy was about, I don't know, he could, 2019? But anyways, I was down south. I was 14, 15. And girl, my mother was, know.

Shannon (14:39.672)
Yeah.

Shannon (14:46.798)
Yeah.

Shun (14:56.451)
She was about her dollar whoever she can get. Okay, you want to date my daughter? Yeah, you can date my daughter Let me drive you a car. Let me go to the club. Yeah, you can sit in the house of my daughter So while she out driving his car, you know getting his money because he basically is being bought over for his the little 14 15 year old me I'm just all audited in love because he's 19 20 years old. He worked at Pizza Hut He had a job. He could take you to the move. honey. I was balling

Shannon (14:59.084)
Yeah.

Shannon (15:15.635)
yeah. yes.

Shun (15:22.627)
Then we went to like a Pentecostal church as well. My mother like before she got real out there She's to have his in church like when I was younger She would go through these phases of joining this church that church she was she was running from something You know, I figured that out when I went to college and got older. But anyways, to this point He was actually dating a girl his age in church and I had no idea so I'm a 14 15 with my jerry-curl, baby. I think I'm popping. Okay

Shannon (15:49.708)
Yes.

Shun (15:50.679)
And this boy liked me this boy liked me because i'm the stuff. Okay i'm skinny i'm slender and he likes me This girl got up in church baby on a sunday and said I would like to announce my engagement to the boy I thought I was so in love with Honey, I like to went under the church pew and rolled out to the street Shannon my heart was so broke. I'm like, are you kidding me? Like literally they were real life engaged and he had been coming to my house like

Shannon (16:12.888)
Mm-mm.

Shannon (16:18.604)
Hmm.

Shun (16:20.301)
taking me out, buying me things like the whole nine yard, Shannon. Okay, but again, it's that putting out thing, know, it's girl, she could be with him, she could be publicly, girl, was so girl, when I said fear, so I'm gonna tell you something, even at that young age, Shannon, we were riding home from church and my stepfather, because I told you my stepfather was my man, he was my, first of all, my father didn't know nothing about the boy, because honey, we all would have been beheaded, okay? But my stepfather was just a,

Shannon (16:27.808)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Shannon (16:46.383)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (16:48.131)
He was just a dad. He just wanted his kids to be happy. Whatever my mama said, that's what went. He loved that woman. And I don't know if that was crazy or not, but whatever my mama said, he was like, okay, cool. That's our boyfriend. But we were driving home and I was just, he said, baby, you know, that'd be okay. He said, it'll be all right. He said, you want me to take you get some ice cream? And I said, yeah. And while he was taking me to get ice cream, I opened the car door, girl, I was going to jump out. You hear me? I was, it was over. I was going to end it all at 14. So when I tell you,

Shannon (16:54.766)
Mm.

Shannon (16:59.918)
Hmm

Shun (17:18.197)
It's funny now baby, but it was not funny then I Get it. So I said that not to make everybody laugh But to tell this if I could be that hurt at 14 with nothing vested Can you imagine these women who have waited their whole lives who have did it right? You know gave their all had these babies for these men to just be up and left for whatever girl listen I couldn't imagine so when I say fear I'm gonna tell you I was very careful dating after that

Shannon (17:20.104)
Yeah, right, right, yeah, yeah.

Shannon (17:32.462)
Nothing.

Yeah.

Shun (17:47.543)
Because I don't want to feel that pain again. I did not want to feel that again. Like that thing broke me down. And I'm telling you, so I can imagine at a grown age. So I'm telling you from bringing myself back to that experience, I think I know what your sister and the rest of those people are going through. You don't want to feel that again. But again, Shannon, I'm too strong and too dope to not give it a shot. So I can't say I agree with it, but I can say I kind of understand.

Shannon (17:50.071)
Yeah.

Shannon (17:53.814)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (18:05.495)
You don't.

Shannon (18:09.646)
Yeah, right. Right. But for those who, you know, we do want to quickly touch on for those who, you know, who, who have been in these marriages and have children, you know, I want to, you know, just, I know you're, you're hurt or you're bitter or whatever you're feeling. But I would want to at least

Shun (18:27.011)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (18:39.246)
not settle or sacrifice, you know, it'd have to be genuine. But I would want my children to see what a loving relationship looks like. So I would try to put myself out there so that if they didn't witness that with their, you know, biological, yeah, they could at least see it because I think a lot of damage is done to children of divorce.

Shun (18:54.957)
with their biological parent, absolutely.

Shannon (19:06.542)
And we can all speak from our experiences, which, Ishan, you and I have so many times. But when you can witness how love is supposed to work, and not saying you can manufacture it, but I would give it an honest try just to say, I do want

Shun (19:28.045)
Right.

Shannon (19:33.856)
my children to see this so that they can, you know, be better at it than me when they are in adulthood and, you know, can make things work for themselves because, you know, I think I blame myself a lot for why my son is single and still out here playing the field like he's, you know, a 21 year old when he should be settled down with a family. He saw me out there.

Like I got this, I'm good, I, you know, whatever. And he never got to witness me in a, I mean, he sees it now, of course, with me and my husband, with me and Will now, but he's, my son's, you know, but growing up, he never saw his mom. Exactly. Yeah, he never saw his mom in that.

Shun (20:05.005)
Mm-hmm. I get it.

Shun (20:19.395)
Yeah, but you kind of don't want to wait till 50 to have grandkids.

Shannon (20:28.128)
hey, here she is in a loving relationship. This is how relationships are supposed to work. So he doesn't know how to make them work. It's my whole point. And I hate that, you know, I did that to him. I take the blame for, I wasn't a one hit wonder, but I did stay away from, you know, relationships for so long that, you know, I think I robbed him of seeing how a loving

healthy, toxic-free relationship was supposed to work.

Shun (21:06.093)
Well, let me let me ease your mind a little bit girlfriend. Let me take the pressure off I get it. I totally get what you're saying but i'm a firm believer shannon that love is Timed love is a gift from god. Love is something that is planned for all of us So I think when it's really time, I don't think you can even stop it You know what? mean, I think that if his appointed love in life Is it his has come?

Shannon (21:31.288)
Yeah.

Shun (21:36.427)
I don't think he will miss that based on what he saw with you is what I'm telling you and the reason I say that is I Chose I was willing to stay with my ex-husband so that my girls could see what a complete whole family was remember this story We had the picket fence literally a white fence y'all. I got one now. Let's come think of it We had the the big nice home. We had the big yard. We had everybody got their own room at bathroom. I had it all

Shannon (21:41.016)
Yeah.

Shannon (21:52.288)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (22:05.827)
It was not it did not work and my children didn't learn or not Okay, that's what love is or you know what I'm saying So they didn't shy away from love because mama had all that and it didn't work They didn't shy away from love, you know, so I I just I don't I can't tell you you're not right But I just wouldn't be too hard on myself because I think when your time for love is appointed I don't think you can miss it to be honest and it's on you if you do it's not on you as a parent

Shannon (22:15.832)
Yeah.

Shannon (22:32.269)
Okay. Yeah, yeah.

Shun (22:35.299)
Because as much as craziness is I girl you read that book you've been in my life for 20 something years almost 30 years You know what i've been through it never stopped me from loving but I can say I I can say now let me help you with this and before we wrap up and move on I can say the way my stepfather loved my mom. I would always say I Guarantee, you ain't gonna love nobody like that ain't nobody about to make no fool of me like and not that he was a fool. He loved her

Shannon (22:40.014)
Yes, yes, yes, yes. Mm-hmm. Right, it did not.

Shun (23:03.267)
But some of that mess my mama put down girl, boom. Good, listen, she'd walk up by herself a lot of nights. Baby, I'll see you. It was fun while I lasted. But he, looking at him, I can almost say honestly, I think that damaged me. I think I stayed in a lot of situations I shouldn't have because I watched how he loved my mother. And I thought that sacrificing, being walked on means you stick and you stay. And it was a late age before I learned that was wrong, Shannon.

Shannon (23:12.526)
Bye.

Shannon (23:28.3)
Yeah, yeah.

Shun (23:33.513)
Not that how he loved her because if that's that maybe that's all he wanted But for me, I would have moved on a long time ago, but my basis was one my mom did him like that, but he stayed true love stays. That was wrong. That is wrong It's some stuff I stayed through that I shouldn't have because of seeing that so I mean maybe you know I we look Shannon. None of us knows the answer girl You know what? I mean, it's all about choices and how much you willing to put in, you know

Shannon (23:33.979)
you

Shannon (23:37.57)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (23:50.05)
Yeah.

Shannon (23:56.91)
That's true. That's true.

Shannon (24:01.582)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (24:01.667)
The only thing I'm sure of Shannon is I will never be anybody's fool again. And just like Luther, I wasn't meant to be alone. That's the only thing I'm sure of. But really, none of us really have the answers. But I'm sorry, do you have anything else before we wrap up?

Shannon (24:11.521)
you

Shannon (24:19.6)
No, else.

Shun (24:23.379)
All right, so We'll we'll end with this tonight family. if at first you don't succeed Dust yourself off and try That's from the book of my girl leah, okay, that's from the book of my life Rest in paradise beautiful. She certainly wasn't a one-hit wonder, you know She left us with a few gems in the music room, you know that I can go too often shannon and get lost in okay, but again

Shannon (24:32.526)
That's right go ahead Aliyah

Shannon (24:44.838)
And now my girl. Yes, you know it.

Shun (24:53.133)
Tonight's topic is not about music, but I had to say my girl's lying. know, first she knows to see. So my people, please hear us when we say, don't let one bad experience with the wrong person rob you of the beauty we should all experience in this lifetime with someone else. If you're lucky like some and you get a one hit wonder that just may turn to the one, then God bless you. But if not,

Shannon (24:57.622)
Yeah!

Shannon (25:19.766)
Mm-hmm. God bless you.

Shun (25:23.127)
dust yourself off and try again. All right, baby mama, on to the next segment.

Shannon (25:29.66)
Alright, here you go, girl.

Shun (25:33.251)
All right, so we've come to our Sweet Little Lie segment. Tonight's Sweet Little Lie comes from a mom in a dilemma. It reads and I quote, since the day my son was born, my husband has treated him like competition instead of our child. He is his natural born son. Not that that should matter, but I thought I would reference to that because it makes the situation even stranger. He constantly competes for my attention with my son who is now a teenager.

and tries often to make me choose. When I tell him it's petty or childish, it turns into a fight. He only wants to play dad when it's time to punish my son or pass on chores because then he can flex without being challenged. He has no problem being authoritative, but barely shows love to my son. I've decided I will not impose that on my child any longer. So my sweet little lie is before he graduates high school,

I will be leaving his father. I want his last two years to be peaceful and since it's been over 15 years, I don't see the situation changing. So I'm changing the situation for my child. He deserves better and since I'm the one who cared him, responsible. I feel responsible for protecting him and no husband. And I'm sorry, and no disrespect to you ladies or my husband, but I don't want any or need.

Shannon (26:56.845)
Hmm.

Shun (27:00.053)
Suggestions, I wrote this in hopes that my husband hears it and thinks about the consequences Because he never heard me the many times I tried to warn him that this would happen So with all due respect No suggestions. We can just move right along Shannon course will be praying for her and this situation so if you have I'm listen I ain't trying to get in her way. Okay, cuz she mad but

Shannon (27:02.312)
dang.

Shannon (27:18.24)
No, Yeah.

Shun (27:26.063)
If you have any sweet little lies and she said no suggestion baby We don't respect none of that because we asked you guys to write in we read it So if you have a sweet little lie that you want to get off your chest We welcome you to email us at wifey and baby mama at gmail.com and that's wifey and baby mama at gmail.com All right, baby mama. I ain't gonna let you walk into that one. Go ahead She said no

Shannon (27:31.042)
Yes, we are. We are, yes.

Shannon (27:45.708)
Yeah, all right. And that's one I really wanted to, I know that's one I really wanted to dive into, but okay, much respect. We appreciate it though, we appreciate it. And yeah, we will honor your wishes. Thank you so much. All right, on to our final segment of the night, which is the fictional family. We feel, fire, or forget.

Shun (27:53.615)
Just then she said get on about your business this way.

Shannon (28:15.962)
And tonight I'm going to talk about one of my favorite favorite movies. don't know. I'm sure Sean, this might be one you've never seen. It's called Riding in Cars with Boys with Drew Barrymore. You never saw it. Yeah, it's from. OK, OK, it's from 2001 and.

Shun (28:34.755)
I've heard of it, I've heard of it, never saw it.

Shannon (28:41.006)
I watched this movie, I don't know how many times over and over and over, because I could relate because Drew Barrymore, her character's name Bev, and she's a single mom. She got pregnant when she was 16 years old and had a little boy that she named Jason. And the father, her and the father got married simply because

Shun (28:54.637)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (29:08.544)
Well, she didn't want to marry him, but her parents, especially her father, her father said, no, you know, you're not going to be out here unwed mothers. So she married the guy, even though they weren't in love. were just somebody one night stand hook up or whatever. But she ended up falling for him. They developed a love and a friendship or whatever. But after the years went on, he ended up cheating on her and then left her for another woman.

Shun (29:23.489)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (29:38.754)
And she never remarried. She just concentrated on getting her education to become a journalist or a writer to make a better life for her and her son. But yet at the same time, she blamed her son for the struggle and a lot of the things that happened, you know, that she could never really get ahead. And when she was finally able to get ahead and write a memoir.

She needed her ex-husband's approval to use him in the memoir. And he didn't want to give it unless she gave him or his new wife, unless she gave them $100,000. And her son couldn't understand why her book to him, to her son, the book meant more to her than he did.

Shun (30:13.923)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (30:36.003)
Mm.

Shannon (30:36.022)
He blamed her for, you know, ruining his life, just like she blamed him for ruining her life. And in the end, it all came together, of course. But it was just a beautiful story to see. You know, she was a one hit wonder, but for different reasons than, you know, what we've talked a lot about tonight. Her main thing was.

I want to be successful. I want a better life for me. And yes, I've been blaming this child that I had at such a young age for keeping me from that. But she eventually reached that goal and then eventually forgave herself because she needed to do that first. And, you know, and then apologized to her son and then apologized to her dad because she in turn had blamed him because she felt like if you hadn't forced me to get married. Yeah.

Shun (31:21.027)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (31:28.173)
from making a mare and the guy.

Shannon (31:31.43)
Exactly. So in this situation, because I love this movie so much, I will have to say I'm going to feel it. you know, anyone who want to go see it or go rent it or whatever it is, it's an oldie but goodie. And for those single mothers out there trying to make it and, you know, putting everything about their life on hold romantically, because she, you know,

She was just about her son and about succeeding and about her education and things like that. So that's why I'm feeling it.

Shun (32:10.811)
Well, like I said, I never saw it but you're so descriptive I will fill that with you because that being a single mother knowing that whole story and what it's all about I respect that and One thing I can say my dad didn't force me to marry Jay Brown's father He did say to me you are now on child number three Baby daddy number three. I need you to get it together says what we doing and somebody you're right dad You know, I should marry him. I don't want to marry that man. I knew better

Shannon (32:21.154)
Yeah.

Shannon (32:40.076)
Now...

Shun (32:40.333)
but I did it to please my father so I could totally relate to that. I loved him, was not in love with him, was very much still in love with Jimmy. And that's why that did not work. But again, my dad didn't force me, but his suggestion made me feel like I'm disappointing my father. You know what I mean? Like my father was a devout Christian. You know, he's about, you know, his father's business, which is God. And I felt like I was making him look bad. I felt like I was a disappointment.

Shannon (32:46.734)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (32:57.4)
Bye.

Shannon (33:02.752)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Shun (33:07.363)
So I married a man that I very much, very well knew, I knew very well better than doing, but it is what it is. We are very good friends. We have a lovely daughter and I think it all works out the way it should in the end. So I'm gonna feel it because I feel that, you know? All right.

Shannon (33:18.006)
Yeah, yeah, all right, yes. All right, thank you. Thank you for feeling it. All right, so that is our show for tonight. All of you around the world and around the globe, thank you so much for listening every Thursday as we sit here and talk about us.

Shun (33:28.215)
Yeah.

Shannon (33:45.31)
and talk about the people we know and the people we don't know and our experiences and the things that we want to impress upon you to hopefully make your blended lives a little better or life in general a little better. So until next week, or I'm sorry, until, yeah, until next week. Yeah, until next week. I thought we were on break already.

Shun (33:59.427)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (34:07.053)
Yeah, until next week. Love you all.

No, no, we got three more episode now. Listen, hold on. Don't be rushing girl. We got three more episodes

Shannon (34:19.616)
Yeah, I'm not rushing. Yeah, please don't take that the wrong way, All right, until next week.

Love you all.