Wifey and Baby Mama

Shun (00:36)
Hey, I'm Shawn.

Shannon (00:38)
Hi, and I'm Shannon.

Shun (00:40)
And we're the host of Wifey and Baby Mama. Happy Thursday, family. We are officially back. How are you feeling, Shannon? How are you feeling?

Shannon (00:47)
Yes, official. I'm feeling great. I'm glad to be back. Yeah, for an official episode.

Shun (00:55)
excited.

Absolutely, we miss you guys.

Shannon (01:02)
Yeah, yeah, and even our welcome back I saw last week where a lot of people tuned in even though we didn't have a topic they still were ready for us and waiting on us and so love it absolutely love it and appreciate it. Yes.

Shun (01:16)
So exciting Absolutely, we have some faithful listeners guys and I tell you I said last week if You guys didn't show up. It would be no reason for us to show up So we honestly thank you and we're so grateful and Shannon. I must confess. I miss you too, man We've both had the most going on this summer honey. Okay summer 24 could be an episode within itself y 'all. Okay But another time another time tonight as promised

Shannon (01:34)
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Yes, yes, yes, yes. Mm -hmm. Yes.

Shun (01:46)
We have a topic. We know you want to get into it So we picked a season opener that we thought would resonate with both male and female. So y 'all ready? Let's go Tonight's topic is loud love and we're not talking about volume Okay tonight we want to get into loving people with actions and not just words or behind closed doors And this is a subject I can say can go either way for me, you know, I've had men that

Want to put on one pants leg and I put on the other that's too close bro back up and then I have had you know No, thank you. And then I've had dudes that will walk five miles in front of me I'm like, what do I stink? Like what's up? So I could get on either side of this So I want to give you my Shannon wants to give you a little of hers and then we want you guys to emails Of course and you weigh in on this topic. So baby mama, how you weigh in on this? I you you hurt me I came I come come in either way

Shannon (02:24)
huh.

Yeah, I can too. So yeah. Yeah, you learn a lot. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm thankful for life's experiences. And sometimes I can be a little shy or maybe not shy, maybe ashamed might be the right word. And, you know, talking about some of the things in the past, but yeah, let's let's get into it.

Shun (02:41)
Okay, okay. It's like either too close.

Mm

Let's go and the thing is I guess you start close to home I guess is that like I said that would be the closest thing and actually that's the best example for me because it gives me a little or both because most women Usually don't have affection showing affection. I don't know. I can't say I'm not a man But either time for me is the only time I couldn't show it guess I'm trying to say this is nice as I can't a case anybody ever dated is listening Lord Jesus I'm trying to be mindful of my words

Shannon (03:34)
Nah, put it out there.

Shun (03:34)
But the most I can say about if I didn't show you affection is I really didn't like you. Like I can't say I didn't know how. I can't say like I was uncomfortable. I just really didn't feel you like that. But you know, I am willing to try anything once. And most of the times when I was in those situations, it was me trying to step away from my comfort zone with certain kinds of men. You know what I mean? But girl.

Shannon (03:42)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Shun (03:59)
After a month or two, I'm like, nah, this ain't gonna work out. Cause I just can't get close to them. I didn't feel right laying my head on their shoulder or holding their hand. I'm like, ugh. And it was nothing personal. It was just, just what my type of height. Okay. So what about you?

Shannon (04:07)
like

Yeah, so for being, you know, I was the one that would always ghost someone and that's my shame and regret. And I had an aunt or have an aunt, she's not dead. My aunt used to tell me all the time, you're going to pay for this, you're going to, it's going to come back and bite you because, you know, I would ghost someone in a minute and because I wasn't feeling them.

and couldn't be honest enough or open enough or, you know, woman enough, even once I became an adult. Of course, it started when I was, you know, teenager, but I couldn't be woman enough to tell a man, nah, I'm not for you. So when the terminology came around, you know, in this day and age about ghosting, I'm like, man, I was doing that in the 80s because that was always my thing, always my thing. I say, what happened to Shannon? What happened to Shannon?

Shun (05:03)
you

Shannon (05:10)
I stopped answering your calls. didn't wanna, you know, I'd have my aunt tell you when you called the house, I wasn't home, I wasn't there. It was just total ghosting. Never once was I, you know, mature enough to tell you, no, I'm not feeling you. You come to find out either by, you know, not hearing from me or you see me in the street with somebody else.

Shun (05:38)
my god, so it wasn't that you just didn't feel them or you just didn't feel like you you need to put the energy into it See what me is just I didn't feel you if I okay got you see what me if I didn't feel you It's just like I would eventually just be like, no, I'm sorry to say no work But if I did feel you know, I did have the other side of that I had a tendency of wanting to be in your shirt You ever seen those Facebook videos when a girl put her head inside the man's shirt if I like you too much now I'm guilty of that

Shannon (05:45)
I didn't film him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Shun (06:05)
And think too much of that can run people away too, you know, so I like I said, I live on both sides of that. But now I want to get into another side of it. When you actually do feel someone like that, they say they feel you like that. And that's the point of the topic, the loud love. They say they feel you like that, but then they don't treat you like that. And let me tell you something, women are action people. You got to show me, honey. You could tell me what you want to tell me all day, but you got to show me, you know.

Shannon (06:06)
air.

yeah, yeah, yeah.

Shun (06:32)
And I'm not talking about with no watches. I'm not talking about with no Louie purse or no Gucci shoes I want you to walk in and make some eye contact. I missed you today, you know, or you know, tap me I'm behind whatever that's allowed love to me when we're out in public I don't want you to stand five people behind me. Yeah, I don't do it You know cuz I when I did that to people Shannon, that's me signaling. I'm really feeling you like that So if you're my man, I don't need that from you. You get what I'm saying?

Shannon (06:56)
Yeah.

Yeah. yeah.

Shun (07:00)
So I feel like either you're not claiming me or you're not feeling me and then What happens when that's your husband? Boop talk about it Talk about it or your wife, you know

Shannon (07:08)
Right. my gosh. that's a good, yeah. mean, I can, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I can say, even with my husband, when we first started dating, due to a lot of stuff he had to work through, stuff I didn't even know about at the time, things that eight years now later we can talk about and see.

We would go to you know, the mall or whatever and I'm not a big hand holder I'm not a big PDA person, but if I feel like okay, we're together You can hold hands a little bit. I don't have to you know, you know Tung you down in public or whatever but just a little handhold and he would you know kind of you know Take his hand away and I'm like wait a minute What in the world? right

Shun (07:55)
Right, right That's right

Yeah, girl. I listen. Yeah.

Shannon (08:04)
I'm with you. I'm not with you and that became such a big deal for me And I never had that issue before him and I'm like, what are you hiding? you? Mm -hmm. I'm like what's going on? You're saying we're together and you know, you're claiming all this if the goal ain't marriage if the goal ain't marriage But you don't want to hold my hand in public

Shun (08:13)
Because you were not filling the people

He's like Birdman is we finish or is we done I mean what's that?

Shannon (08:32)
Yeah, so that took a that took a good bit of Cup was good bit of therapy and conversations to say wait a minute. Are you trying to hide?

Shun (08:38)
So...

Jimmy went to the exact same lens and you know his thing he would always come back to I'm just not a hand holder I just never did that I just well you know why because you just never been with one woman so is that still going on?

Shun (09:05)
Because that's why you didn't do it before because you don't know if Susie or Teresa are rolled up on you, know, or Joanne are rolled up on you. But now if we're together, especially in marriage, now what's the now what's the issue? You know what I mean? So like you said, therapy, talk and time, you know, gets that out. But I can tell you, which is why we bring in this topic. What happened to me is what I'm fearful. Listen, young listeners, young daters, just getting started. But, you know, even if you are dating, listen to me.

Shannon (09:06)
Yeah.

you

Right, right.

Shun (09:34)
It's important to figure that out Because it got to a point now. I don't even care, you know And then once he rolled around and now he there beat up and he like hey, but get away from me because I don't care now and that's bad, but it's real you know what I mean because Now you don't make me feel like I got to beg you to do it So we like to bring out issues. I do anyways I like to bring out issues that I've had So that people can not go through it. So fellas if it's just you're not affectionate

Shannon (09:44)
Hehehehehe

Right.

Mm -hmm.

Shun (10:03)
If this the one you want to be with I suggest you get affectionate because women are big on that and I'm not even I'm not a man But I got some male friends that tell me like I like when my woman hugged me I like when my woman just walk in the house and lay on me, you know, that's big So it ain't just women but I'm okay We can only speak from a woman's point of view because we are women and we can tell you what we like But you also have women Shannon that don't want to be bothered either. So I guess it's a personal situation

Shannon (10:16)
yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

yeah, definitely.

Shun (10:32)
Like you said in the beginning, but it was because you didn't like the guys But if this is your husband if you're dating but if you're dating to marry, this is a very important real thing Loud love is real and it's very important to me and I want to tell you when I didn't get it for so long Shannon I just didn't even want it anymore. Now. Here's the thing I'm not gonna i'm not leaving my husband. I love my husband. We in this thing to stay right? But now it's a part of my life that i've shut down because I don't want to fight for it anymore

Shannon (10:36)
Right, I wasn't feeling them.

Right.

Yeah, yeah. yeah. Yeah, I do. Yeah, yeah. And the interesting thing with my husband is he is the more sensitive one. We talk about it all the time. you know, I've always been, like I've said on this show previously, you know, I'm more like a dude when it comes to, you know, the feelings part. I'm not that, you know, I don't.

Shun (11:01)
You get what I'm saying? You feel me? That's crazy, right?

Shannon (11:28)
I don't go all in like most females. I don't know. It's just I'm a little different. And I don't know why that is. So he is a lot more sensitive. So when it came to the hand holding thing, which is the only thing, he'll kiss me and do all this. I'm like, I'd rather you just hold my hand. I don't need you tongueing me down in public. But holding the hand, what's up with that?

Shun (11:49)
Right. Right.

Shannon (11:57)
You know, just getting an understanding and picking your battles, I guess, too. You know, for me to say, OK, Shannon, you're getting worked up over something that isn't even worth it because he does all these other things. Now, if it was a combination of, you know, not only are you not loving me out loud and for people to see,

you know, cause he didn't mind a Facebook post. You put us out there, you know, here we are on Facebook. Cause I know there are men out there that don't like social media posts. They're like, don't put me out there. And I have so many girlfriends that would never put their spouse or their boyfriend or whatever they're, no, he don't believe in that. He don't believe in that. Well, that's, that's, and not saying that's a barometer, but if he doesn't and you do, I don't know.

It's like, okay, I wouldn't be on social media. Okay, what you got to say? What you got to say?

Shun (12:55)
Well, I beg to differ my sister I know negroes who post a wife shoes. They post a brush and a teeth They post a you know putting a bra on I love my boo and baby that got 15 other women You know what if you're do that don't post me don't do that. So we can't man Yeah, we can't measure like that boo because girl

Shannon (13:05)
Ha

That's right. There you got that right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not a barometer.

Shun (13:19)
Baby posting the heck out these women you see you see them out to dinner with something. What a wait a minute now Wait a minute. I thought you loved the ground. What a ground that now that she was walking on So yeah, don't play with me. So the loud love

Shannon (13:25)
Yeah, yeah.

yeah, yeah. Yeah, now my husband, yeah, yeah, he won't post me. Well, he don't post anything. That's just, that's just will. He won't put anything. But to put, for me to put it out there, he doesn't care. You know, where I know there are certain men, they're like, nah, you know, we don't need to do all that. And yeah, I know some people are extra when it comes to you. We've all seen what we call the Facebook lives, not lives, not L -I -V -E -S, but L -I -E -S because

Shun (13:36)
But the loud love is

Good l i e s okay, okay

Shannon (13:59)
We see a lot of the Facebook lies and the people that we know that we know their life ain't like this, but That's what they want to put out there. So

Shun (14:09)
Hey and guess what if you like it, I love it, but I'm gonna tell you this Don't play with me. I don't do the fake. I'm not gonna get on here like My husband hold my hand and he opens the car door and before I get out the car He's the latest jack -in -the -box girl lies. I have to access something to get can I get out the car? my bad He'll get in the car the door still locks. They sir cuz you unlike the dog cuz you unlike the door sir. So we go through

Shannon (14:16)
Yeah, yeah, I don't either.

Mm -mm.

Right?

lord, lord,

Shun (14:37)
I'm not finna get on here live, but let me tell you something. I ain't got a cut no grass, baby. I ain't gonna do this. I ain't got to do that. You know what I'm saying? So baby, everybody's barometer, like you said, is different. So I don't judge him by that. I don't judge him by that. I also can't, you know, get the work. Hey, he made it work. Okay. It's certain things that he do that I'm like, okay, he getting on my nerves. But like, I just left the house. What could have happened? Well, he's just making sure nothing happened, you know? So it is certain things that I do. You know, everybody's love language is different.

Shannon (14:42)
That's right. That's right. Yeah. Yeah.

It's different. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right. Yeah, yeah.

Shun (15:07)
Don't get me wrong and love language will discuss later on right now This is loud love and these are things that we're saying that that we need and that's important But before we get on to another segment, I want to spend this just a little bit Shannon before we switch to the next segment Let's talk about the family dynamic of this loud love Let's get into that because

Shannon (15:08)
Yeah, yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

Mm -hmm.

Hmm.

Alright.

Shun (15:32)
It can be so fake sometimes child. can sell it in the store. You hear me and sometimes I'll be having time for that, you know what i'm saying and They can act like and then on the other hand they can act like y 'all face honey They could stab you you have 50 knives in your back before you get to the door honey one number a little short walk and sometimes they literally Cannot stand the ground you walk on but we're still in bite. Can you come over like I don't understand Listen, let me tell you who I am at this big number of 48

Shannon (15:35)
I got some stories.

Yeah, yeah.

Shun (16:02)
If I don't like you ain't fooling with you loud soft none of that is zero. That's the number you get from me Okay, we ain't on two. We ain't on ten. We on zero. So I would prefer that kind of love Versus the fake love don't don't you don't have to be loud and fake. Don't do that. So How do you feel about the family side of loud love or do even think that's important?

Shannon (16:06)
Right, yeah, yeah.

Mm -hmm.

Mm -hmm.

Well, it depends. It depends. So what I've learned, like you all know, I got married later in life. so initially, because I got married later in life and wasn't mature in that space, I would talk about things that pertain to what was going on in my marriage with my sisters or my mom. And I'd get all these opinions and all of this.

I didn't like him anyway, know, whatever, you know, when people are thinking they're standing up for you and they're like, I'm gonna take your side by saying, you know, I never liked him from the beginning, you know, whatever. So where family is concerned, I now have learned, keep your mouth shut. You and your husband, you will go through stuff and there are certain people you can talk to, with Sean, you're one of them.

You know, there are certain people where you can, you know, unload on and they're not going to judge you and they're not going to, you know, come after your marriage and try to bring it down and say, okay, you need to go and you know, whatever. And it's always over the smallest little things because there are certain things that are so small. Like, you know, even to go flip back a little bit to what we were talking about before. Yeah. You don't want to hold my hand in public or whatever. Some of my family would be like,

Shun (17:22)
Exactly.

Shannon (17:52)
You need to let him go or you know I'm in the kitchen cooking and my husband's sitting in the living room and he's telling me to change the channel on the TV I'm like wait a minute The remote is right there by you and I'm in here cooking and we're gonna all of a sudden fight over who's changing You know little stuff like that that your family will jump in and say and I'm sure listeners are gonna say that's just stupid ain't nobody that crazy, but they are Because yes

Shun (18:18)
They are trust.

Shannon (18:21)
They think they really think they're standing up for you and if they've got your back, if that's what you want to hear. Sometimes you don't want to hear anything when you're trying to confide in people. You just want a listening ear. You don't need advice. You don't need anybody to fix it. But I've learned now, you know, hey, you can't talk to family about all of this. And a lot of times loving out loud and, you know,

Shun (18:42)
You got that right. You got that right.

Shannon (18:49)
your love is loud can also come off in other situations. I've learned in my family, I've seen it be fake on the flip side, meaning I've had siblings where I thought their marriage was solid. And I'm not saying fake it. I'm not saying be a fake, but I've had the fake where you see all this lovey -dovey, lovey -dovey, and then someone pops up pregnant.

Shun (19:12)
Sharon.

Chaaabbed By your husband Chaaabbed talk about it, huh

Shannon (19:20)
by a extramarital affair. I'm like, wait a minute. I'm like, what, what, what, what, what? You know, so there's just, there's just a balance of, you know, being true to yourself and keeping folks out to business without being overly, you know, overly loud or extremely loud. That's not true. That, that, that, volume is not really true to who you are. Yeah. Yeah.

Shun (19:46)
That I can do without That I that I can do without and that and you said a perfect word to wrap up on balance Just keep it up. Just just keep it balanced, know, and like you said you don't have to go all out But don't don't starve me of it either like let me know, you know, and it's okay to announce like, know This is my husband. This is my wife, you know holding hands like you said, you don't have to tongue kiss in public but it should be some it should be some degree of if

Shannon (20:11)
Hehehehe

Shun (20:14)
We're in a room Shannon and we go visit friggin Alaska or we go visit Arizona and no one knows me and my husband It should be enough language or enough volume to our relationship that people walk in and say that must be his wife Or they're not they're trying to figure out if we sister and brother because it's been to the point where Seriously, men have hit on me my husband sitting right there and you know why they don't know I'm with you Because you ain't showing no signs of togetherness

Shannon (20:28)
They're together. Mm hmm. Yeah.

brush.

wow.

Shun (20:42)
yeah, we went through that I went through that a lot in the past like did you not see me walk in with him? So that's what I tried to make clear It's not that I want or I need necessarily sometimes I do need it But it's not that I want you to be like, he whipped me cuz I'll everybody know I'm with you No, everybody don't because if so two dudes wouldn't just hit on me, know what I mean? So it's a bad it's a matter of balance and working through it and it does it sometimes it's not something that comes natural Sometimes it is

Shannon (20:53)
Mm -hmm.

Mm -hmm. Yeah, yeah.

Shun (21:10)
It just depends on the individual situation. So don't judge your relationship By how loud it is on social media with two people because like Shannon said then the wife or the husband the pregnant by somebody else I'll get somebody else pregnant. That's a whole mess. Okay, or don't be to a point where people got to sit back and wonder I want to stay together if he even is he still with her it needs to be that perfect balance Okay, so if we can help anybody tonight understand that and that's I'll wrap up by saying

Shannon (21:10)
Mm -hmm.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Shun (21:39)
Real smooth and simple keep it real all together. Just keep it real If you got to work towards it work toward it If you need to bring it down because the other person like okay, this is too much you're doing too much you figure figure that stuff out, know, but I need you to find your person and find your affection level and if you I'm not affection, you better learn it because that's very important to the longevity and quality of the kind of relationship you're going to have in the future

Shannon (21:52)
-huh.

Yeah. Yeah.

Agreed and be realistic. You know, there are things that shouldn't break what you have and then other things that you might need to fix You know, so Get a perspective on it all. All right, so where we going Sean?

Shun (22:13)
Be realistic.

There you have it. Alright!

We're to transition to our next segment guys. Are y 'all ready?

Shannon (22:38)
our new segment.

Shun (22:40)
new segment All right transition transition is made All right. So our audience invite was X'd So although like Shannon said we do have you know, we probably had some new people I probably was a lot of new people starting then what's this about? They jumping in cuz I'm like, go check us out Shannon's like hey, we're back Then you got the the I'm not new to this. I'm true to this. I ain't listen back. I ain't listening to no welcome back I'm just jumping right in

Shannon (23:06)
Hehehehe

Shun (23:09)
So whatever if you missed welcome back or if you heard i'm gonna say it again Our audience invite was cut you guys didn't want to learn my new music. I don't know what it was Y 'all got beef with my segments. It's cool, but we're gonna find our foot in here at the wild So our new segment is going to be called sweet little lies Now if you were tuned in last week, you know what it is. If not real quick. Here's a little background I'm gonna ask you guys to email us at wifeyandbabymamaat gmail .com

Shannon (23:15)
Hehehehe

you

Shun (23:38)
That's wifeyandbabymama at gmail .com and we want to know your sweetest little lies. It can be funny. It can be dark. It can be I hurt this guy. I need to get off my chest. I hurt this girl. I left it to Arthur. Whatever you want to tell us we want to listen, but because it's intimate we don't ask for any names. Give them if you like, especially if it's funny. If you don't even need a state. We just want some material. We want to get a segment that's going to draw you guys in because for the last three seasons.

Shannon (23:44)
Mm -hmm.

Hmm hmm hmm.

Shun (24:07)
You've been fair to well man. So our new segment is sweet little lies We don't have one tonight, of course because this is our first episode But I just want to jump in there and let you guys know after the wrap -up. This will be our new segment So again, it's gonna be sweet little lies and we're waiting to hear from our man Shannon gonna have to start telling our dirty secret Charlotte We married women so I need y 'all to tap in

Shannon (24:25)
Or, yeah. No, but I'm sure, Sean, I'm sure you've had someone tell you a sweet little lie, because I have. Can you?

Shun (24:36)
We ain't got enough time for that honey, that's why I said let the fall

Shannon (24:39)
I got one that we can just kind of touch on a little bit and of course it's anonymous. It's a little sweet little lie.

Shun (24:45)
Well drop it. Hey drop it, baby. Drop it. I was not prepared to be embarrassed. So you go right on ahead, ma 'am.

Shannon (24:50)
That was

No, no, no, not about me, but what's given to me. So say this person actually wrote in, but they did not. They just happened to be someone that I'm, you know, friends with or whatever. And they had a relationship with both of them were married, the female that I'm talking about, as well as the guy.

Shun (24:58)
Mmm!

Okay.

Shannon (25:23)
But the sweet little lie part about it is he ended up leaving his wife for this particular friend. And after all of the back and forth that went on for a few years, when he did let go and decide that he wanted her, she was like,

Mmm, I ain't leaving my husband. I Didn't want all that, you know So that became that yeah, so that became the sweet little lie and I'm like, my god cuz I had to listen for several years about her Angst about I love him and I want him and this and that or whatever and I'm thinking You know, but you're both cheaters. You know, what are you? What's what's going on?

Shun (26:01)
No.

Shannon (26:21)
And then when he finally tried to give her what she actually said she wanted, she's like, nah, that ain't it. So to this day, you know, he's gone on to move on to, you know, second wife or whatever, but, and she's still with her original husband and those, those kind of sweet little lies. like, I don't know what to do with that type of information. and you hate to preach it.

Shun (26:42)
Well...

Shannon (26:51)
when your friends come to you with that kind of stuff or call her friends, I don't know if you'd necessarily call her friend friend, but acquaintance or whatever, she had enough whatever to confiding me for years. It wasn't like a one time, you know, let me talk to you about, you know, what's going on. This went on for several years.

Shun (27:09)
So let me ask so let me ask this Did she did she did she tell the guy she wanted him or did she just elude? But then when the time came she chickened out

Shannon (27:19)
yes, yes. No, no, Yeah, she was like, no, I'm not leaving my husband. And she refused to leave her husband.

Shun (27:27)
Well, what does she think was not but what but what does she think this gonna happen if he left his wife? Were you supposed to just have the best of both worlds? I'm just so confused by that. But okay Thought that he wouldn't That's a fact

Shannon (27:36)
I think she honestly, I don't think she thought he would leave his wife because most men don't and you know, that just doesn't happen. Yeah. Yeah. So the fact that he actually went through with it and I'm not sure the circumstances around him leaving his wife. Maybe his wife left him. I have no clue how their marriage ended because I wasn't on his end. I was only on her end. And when he came a knocking and said, I'm here for you. She's like, nah, nah, it's not a good time.

Shun (27:52)
Right.

Wow.

Shannon (28:06)
So.

Shun (28:07)
Well, my god. Well, that's a different spin. So see I was thinking of giving sweet little eyes. Well, okay We can also share sweet little eyes That is crazy. What a season opener. Okay was I you've taken my mind? That's all I have if you have some sweet little eyes again I want to encourage I want to tell you I want to employ you. Let's have a fun season wifey and baby mama at gmail .com We'll be waiting on you. All right, Shannon. What do you got?

Shannon (28:13)
Right?

Bye.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, on to our new segment around the fictional family. As we mentioned last week, it's not the fictional family I'm feeling, it's the fictional family or couple or whatever in the world of sitcoms and movies that you want to feel, fire, or forget.

And today, because we're talking about Love Out Loud and being true and being open and all these things, I'm going to bring up the Prestons. They're called the Prestons simply because Carrie Bradshaw and Big from Sex in the City. His name was actually John Preston, which we didn't know for so many years. We just knew him as Big.

Shun (29:22)
Mr. B

Shannon (29:24)
Mr. Big, but as you can see throughout their relationship, there was a lot of cheating. There was a lot of hiding. know, Carrie had a wonderful dude, Aiden. Everyone loved Aiden and she cheated on Aiden with Big. Big cheating on his wife with Carrie. was all this back and forth. And when you're watching it, if people are our age or my age and they look back on it, we were rooting for Carrie. We were.

Carrie, we didn't see any wrong in anything that she was doing. But now that I'm older, I'm like, exactly. So, so yes. So now today, before I was feeling, you know, depressed and now it's, I'm firing her and him. I want to fire both of them because it's not a good look on either end, no matter how much you're caring for.

Shun (29:54)
Nope. Right. Carrie was wrong. It's two left shoes, honey. Two left shoes.

It's not.

Shannon (30:19)
you know, wanting her to win in life and wanting him to win or whatever. Yeah, they're both fired. They're fired. What do you feel? Feel fired? You agree?

Shun (30:21)
providing yeah

I'd have to agree I have to agree but I will not forget him because I did enjoy it But I will fire him because like you said now at the big age the grown saved age of 48 It was dead wrong. So yeah, I have to agree sweetheart. We will fire them tonight. I love it I love it. So family we hope you guys enjoy our new segments and you see how easy it is We can make a twist with it But again, if you guys want to go back to the audience invite just to the traditional fiction family

Shannon (30:35)
Yeah.

Hehehehehe

All right.

Shun (30:56)
That's what the email is for if not, we're gonna pump it for season four and we'll weigh in at the end but We have come to the end of our official season For episode one. Yes

Shannon (30:59)
Hmm.

Yeah. All right. We thank you all for tuning in and we look forward to next Thursday when you come back and join us.

Shun (31:17)
Yes! Love you all!

Shannon (31:21)
Until then.

Shun (31:23)
Bye.