Last Name Blues
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Shun (00:43.47)
And we're the host of wifey and baby mama. Happy Thursday, family. Welcome back to another week of Shannon and Sean doing their due diligence to make families blended or otherwise more peaceful in the world in general a better place to be. We're trying, we're trying. And because we promised you all guests on top of guests for season three, we have with us yet another guest. Join us for this episode titled Last Name Blues.
Shannon (00:58.989)
We're trying, we're trying.
Shun (01:13.41)
With us is the lovely Tiffany. Yes We have with us the lovely Tiffany tonight, hello Tiffany happens to be the sister Of none other than the tech guru herself my baby mama and your hostess with the mostest shit Miss Tiffany, why don't you introduce yourself to the audience honey?
Shannon (01:13.554)
Yes.
Shannon (01:18.41)
Yaaa
Tiffany (01:20.21)
Hello.
Shannon (01:26.269)
Hehehehehehe
Hahaha
Tiffany (01:36.794)
Hello everyone, I'm Tiffany. Great to be here. Happy to be on the show.
Shun (01:42.142)
with Great to Have You.
Shannon (01:43.432)
Yes, yes, this is my sister, my baby sister, my little baby. And she was my baby when she was born. We're nine years apart. And my mother used to always say, I was her second mom and I know Sean, you've dealt with it with more than just one, raising siblings, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, and I'll tell her, right, and I'll tell her.
Tiffany (01:51.327)
I think.
Shun (01:55.366)
Wow.
Shun (02:02.954)
Right. Jamila got three kids and I have five, plus my own boy.
Shannon (02:11.716)
A story so it's uh me and my older sister and my brother and then of course my little sister And when she was born she wore cloth diapers My mother was organic and all of that back in the day and we used to have to dunk her diapers um in the toilet And my sister my brother
Shun (02:24.154)
Okay.
Tiffany (02:26.926)
I'm over.
Shun (02:31.164)
She's telling all your business, I'm sorry.
Shannon (02:34.62)
And my brother and my older sister, they didn't want to do it. They're like no, no Oh gross gross. I'm like, I'll do it. I'll do it. I didn't care at all. I didn't mind dunking your diapers girl
Shun (02:40.394)
I'm sorry.
Shun (02:45.57)
That is awesome
Tiffany (02:46.829)
Thank you, thank you. It's a long-awaited thank you, but I don't think I ever thanked you for that.
Shun (02:54.843)
I'll do but better late than never Tiffany. Look at you. Look at you. Well, welcome Tiffany We are late have you joining us tonight for such an important topic Um that some may not realize can play a huge role, you know in blended families last name blues is the title we chose because Name differentials can sometimes you know have you wondering who am I supposed to be? You know?
Tiffany (02:57.262)
That's right, that's right.
Shannon (02:57.284)
Ha ha ha.
Tiffany (03:01.248)
Thank you.
Shannon (03:10.093)
Yeah.
Shun (03:19.694)
And that is I hear some that's hugged on your heart as you guys grew up Tiffany. And if you wouldn't mind, can you share how that affected you? Was it a big or small issue as a child or even now, if you don't mind.
Tiffany (03:24.051)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Tiffany (03:31.763)
Yeah, yes, I, you know what? I thought it was really funny in your intro. You said, no drama, no drama, that's part of your song. I'm not promising that tonight, so. We're. Yeah.
Shannon (03:37.764)
Hehehehehehe
Shun (03:43.128)
That's like she waited to thank you for them diapers she got some other issues shit Tiffany I'm here for it Tiffany. I'm here for it, baby.
Tiffany (03:46.838)
That's right. I got some issues. Made myself a list. I've been waiting for this platform all my life.
Shannon (03:50.456)
Oh, no way. You can't. Oh, no way.
Shun (03:53.186)
Long time let's go baby. You got it wife and baby. Mom is here to heal sweetheart. Let it go. Come on, Tiffany
Tiffany (03:59.554)
Yeah, Shannon's like, Lord, what did I do? What did I do? No, I think it's such a good topic. I think it's a great topic because I think the last name, like it's all about who you are, right? Like it identifies who you are. So it's part of your identity. So growing up, I was, my last name was different from theirs.
Shun (04:04.766)
I'm sorry.
Shannon (04:10.532)
Hehehe.
Shun (04:14.075)
Absolutely.
Shannon (04:14.337)
Right.
Tiffany (04:23.75)
I always wanted to be their last name to be honest. I thought their last name was even cooler than my last name. And they were talking about how their last name, Shannon, I don't know if you remember, but y'all always used to say, well, we're Indian, we got Indian, Native American in our blood. I was like, oh, it was a lie. Back then y'all thought it was true.
Shannon (04:27.012)
Hehehehe
Shannon (04:39.106)
That was a lie. It was a lie. It was a lie.
Shun (04:42.846)
There was a percent of African Americans told Tiffany so baby get that's what you can let it go sweetheart. That's one you can ease up You can ease your mind about I think 99% of the African American community Although I'm gonna defend my heritage. I do have Indian. I'm mine's real. I have proof. Go ahead
Tiffany (04:48.814)
Hehehe
Shannon (04:49.259)
Yeah.
Tiffany (04:53.006)
Yes.
Shannon (05:00.783)
Yeah, I can see it. Yes.
Tiffany (05:02.18)
See, it's a flex. It's a flex for people. Like, yeah.
Shun (05:04.534)
It is a flight. No, no, I said it wasn't because unlike you guys and I'm gonna let you finish But we grew up like dirt poor so we didn't even know that we didn't even know if it wasn't flex Maybe we could have used that to get a cut a loaf of bread or something back in the day. But right now Right now we know it means nothing but back then it was a flex to some people so I'm sorry sweetie. Go ahead
Shannon (05:04.948)
Right, right.
Tiffany (05:12.044)
Really?
Tiffany (05:18.929)
See? Probably not, but yeah.
Shannon (05:23.661)
Right.
Yeah.
Tiffany (05:27.37)
Mm-hmm. No, I mean, it definitely felt like it last, back then it felt like it was special. It was important and they had like this really cool last name and I was like, man, I like, you know, and they would talk about it and I was like, yeah, that's what I'm gonna be like, let me be like that a little bit. So it was, it was different. There's three of them with the same last name and then there was, and then there was me, like, and I was, I think probably compiled on top of that was the fact that I was younger. So.
Shun (05:37.246)
I'm sorry.
Shannon (05:38.947)
Hehehehe
Shannon (05:55.189)
Yeah.
Tiffany (05:55.262)
My older sister is 10 years older. My, you know, Shannon is nine years older and then my brother was seven years older. So the age gap, along with the fact that they all had the same dad and then I had a different dad, it was definitely isolating. And then if you think about being a kid, it doesn't take much for you to feel isolated anyway.
Shun (05:55.399)
Okay.
Shun (06:18.019)
Absolutely not.
Shannon (06:18.8)
Right, right.
Tiffany (06:19.138)
So it's almost like innate in you as a kid, you know, that thing that's going to separate you from other people. So in the family, it always felt like they were a unit and then there was me by myself. Yeah, so they and they had a they had a bond that was there before I was born, which you know, I don't take anything away from that. That makes sense. They had these shared experiences. Yeah, yeah. Right. Yes.
Shun (06:22.928)
Absolutely.
Shun (06:31.994)
Wow. Aw.
Shannon (06:33.429)
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon (06:39.98)
Right. Yeah.
Shun (06:41.534)
But it just made you feel like an outcast because they had this life way before I showed up. And then I show up with this different last name and different father. Like it makes you ask the question, who am I supposed to be? Even my six-year-old son has the same father as my oldest daughter. So Jamila, so Jimmy's Jamila's father, right? Then I had two kids in between and I was T. Shannon. The two in between are the vanilla scoops, right?
Tiffany (06:50.486)
That's right. Yep.
Yeah.
Shannon (06:54.113)
Yeah.
Tiffany (06:59.401)
Mm-hmm.
Shun (07:07.238)
Then Jamila's a chocolate baby and then Frank's a chocolate baby. So one day even at like two or three he puts his arm next to the Another fun fact is my last two children different fathers totally different continents. She was born in the south They both have the exact same birthday tiffany. They were born on the exact day 10 years apart like uh-huh, oh seven and 17 and he puts his arm to her at about two years old and he said look jabriana your
Shannon (07:07.448)
Hehehehehehe
Tiffany (07:07.754)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon (07:10.764)
Hehehe
Tiffany (07:24.166)
Oh wow, that's amazing. Get out.
Shannon (07:27.645)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tiffany (07:31.298)
That's amazing.
Shannon (07:31.616)
I'm sorry.
Shun (07:36.846)
You're white and I'm black and she's in fact Just a light-skinned black girl, but to him and his two-year-old mind What are you watching? You know, what are you because I definitely don't teach my kids that I know my kids are not white She's nowhere near white but Yeah, he put her so like you said it doesn't take much to make a kid Say that i'm different, you know in and he didn't say it even in a negative way He just noticed the fact that she was a lighter color. So he said she
Tiffany (07:38.722)
Hmm
Tiffany (07:43.057)
Yeah.
Tiffany (07:50.926)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon (07:51.73)
Hehehe
Tiffany (07:58.034)
Yeah, right.
Shun (08:05.014)
I'm black. And so we started to teach him that, no, you are all black. And then one day, they were having a conversation. And he's going, learning his name in pre-K. So you're Jameson Frank Gaines. And he goes, yeah. And he said, and Jamiwa Gaines, because he has a speech impediment. And then he says, Yvette Gaines. And he says, James Gaines. And he said, J'Abrion Gaines. I said, no, J'Abrion's last name is Drew. He said, well, she needs to get out of this house.
Tiffany (08:08.983)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon (08:09.974)
Yeah.
Shannon (08:21.57)
Hehehehe
Tiffany (08:22.574)
Bye.
Shannon (08:32.972)
Hahaha
Shun (08:35.566)
No, it's not Because he didn't know in his three or four year old brain that was me But that is a name differential that he noticed It's not mine Like who like but i'm like dude, she was here before you like the audacity, but he's like, I don't care You know, she got my last name. She needs to go
Shannon (08:39.772)
ref right yeah
Tiffany (08:41.239)
Yeah.
Tiffany (08:45.554)
Yeah. Right.
Tiffany (08:51.282)
Yeah, yeah. Right, it's like the one of these things is not like the other. So it was like you just get rid of that thing, you know? Yeah, that's right.
Shannon (08:54.208)
Yeah, yeah.
Shun (08:58.662)
That's right. That's one thing that does not match. Yeah, so I can understand how you would feel that way. Even though I know Shannon and you, the older three siblings, I know you guys never meant to make her feel that way. I know you never intended to.
Shannon (09:03.185)
Yeah.
Shannon (09:10.54)
Well, we were kids. Yeah, we were kids too. But so Tiffany, did we ever discuss this growing up? I know if you brought it up to us, we probably wouldn't have paid any attention, but did you ever try to say something to any of us?
Tiffany (09:13.923)
Yeah, there it is.
Tiffany (09:25.727)
Right.
Tiffany (09:31.838)
as a kid, you just kind of deal with it. You just kind of look at what's going on and you just kind of keep it moving. And I think whenever the times that would come up when I would feel that isolation, I think it would be those times. You know, because you all had these shared experiences. You had these shared history. You talk about your grandmother and all these people on your side of the family that you all shared and these memories and different things like that. So I think I would just...
Shun (09:34.804)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon (09:36.649)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon (09:49.664)
Yeah, yeah.
Tiffany (10:01.27)
be quiet and listen and try to absorb it. And I don't think I ever said too much about it. And I think there were times, like I can definitely remember some times where my brother, oh, Lord love him. He would literally say, you're not my sister. You're not my sister. He said that a lot to me growing up, which made it worse. Now you all never said that. And of course brothers are.
Shannon (10:17.144)
Yeah.
Shannon (10:28.6)
Right.
Tiffany (10:29.154)
They're born to be annoying. That's like literally why they were made. Yeah, yeah, it's like that's their nature. Yeah, but I mean, that's a, you know, I'm sure it's common, but it's still, it hurt nonetheless. Yeah, it was definitely hurtful. Yeah. If Shannon, do you...
Shannon (10:31.3)
Yeah, yeah. Right, yep.
Shun (10:31.342)
Yeah, so he, so he pranked you. So he pranked you. You don't have the same last name, get out of here.
Shame on the brother for franking you.
Shun (10:48.37)
Hurtful. Mm, absolutely.
Shannon (10:52.223)
Yeah so as that um applies to your Oh, i'm, sorry. Go ahead tiffany
Tiffany (10:58.494)
Now I was gonna say, do you wanna tell them about Shut the Door on the Queenie or shall I tell them?
Shannon (11:02.884)
No, you tell. Yes, you tell it. That's your drama to tell.
Tiffany (11:11.758)
So they had a song that they made up. The three of them had a song called Shut the Door on the Queenie Day called me the Queenie. So what was I, a toddler? Oh, I was a queen. I was a queen. So they would sing the song, Shannon, sing it. You like to sing. So it was.
Shannon (11:17.988)
Bye!
Shannon (11:22.744)
Queen you were the queen
Shun (11:23.093)
Oh my goodness.
Shannon (11:35.101)
I honestly don't remember the lyrics
Shun (11:35.309)
You like to sing, don't you?
Tiffany (11:37.822)
Yes. So it would say something like, shut the door on the Queenie, shut the door on the Queenie. And they said when I would come running down the hall and like going into the room where they were, they'd slam the door in my face and I'd be shut out of the room where they were. So, yes.
Shannon (11:43.443)
Hey. Yeah.
Shun (11:49.95)
Oh, Shhh, Finn. Oh my goodness, how cruel.
Shannon (11:53.44)
Mm.
Tiffany (11:55.922)
Yeah, I didn't send y'all my therapy bills. That's what I'm gonna do. Right.
Shun (12:00.716)
Hahaha
Shannon (12:03.7)
Well, I will I will I will blame my older sister Because she's not here to defend herself. That was all recent. That was reason. It wasn't me
Shun (12:03.72)
The door on the queen of Shannon
Tiffany (12:11.022)
Thank you.
Shun (12:13.281)
Hahaha!
Tiffany (12:15.998)
Yeah
Shun (12:16.566)
I was an unwilling participant. I was forced. Save yourself, Shannon, save yourself.
Shannon (12:19.248)
Yeah, yes, yes. So, so speaking of how that influenced you Tiffany, I know, um, you know, you have a daughter now and you chose to keep The last name of your ex-husband. You want to talk a little bit about that?
Tiffany (12:19.528)
Yes, right.
Yeah, yeah.
Tiffany (12:31.666)
Yeah.
Tiffany (12:38.278)
Yeah, yeah, I did that because even though she doesn't have siblings, I wanted when she goes to school, I wanted her teachers, I wanted the people around her to see me and her as one unit. Like, I didn't want them to see even, I didn't, they didn't necessarily need to know about a divorce or whatever our family situation is. I just know that when they saw her name on the paper, I wanted them to see my last name matching hers. Yeah.
Shannon (12:40.557)
Yeah.
Shannon (12:44.569)
Mm-hmm.
Shun (12:52.126)
Wow.
Shannon (12:52.885)
Okay.
Shun (13:05.47)
That's awesome. That's very powerful. I tried even in my last Divorce Tiffany. I don't know how much The show you watch or listen to or how much you know about me, but I have this is my third marriage Although I have married Jimmy twice like I went back for the brutalness. But anyways, um, I went back for the torture but um My second husband had a different last name, of course So when I married him I asked because I had a daughter already
Shannon (13:05.616)
Okay. Yeah.
Shannon (13:14.882)
Hehehehehe
Tiffany (13:19.108)
Yeah.
Shannon (13:21.144)
Hehehehehehe
Tiffany (13:21.422)
Hahaha
Shun (13:33.522)
Could I keep a hyphenated Gaines Drew? He said, absolutely not. Because what most men like, you will carry my name. Like you're not gonna hang on to that legacy. I was so angry at him then because I, like you, when I went to my oldest daughter's school, like you said, I'm getting this new husband. We have this new baby with his name. So if I do David Drew, like they both can belong. You know what I'm saying? He was like, hands down, like done, you're done. I was like, okay, cool.
Tiffany (13:38.746)
Oh.
Shannon (13:42.453)
Yeah.
Tiffany (13:44.471)
Mm-hmm.
Tiffany (13:53.486)
Mm-hmm.
Tiffany (13:56.82)
Yeah.
Shannon (14:00.44)
Hehehe
Tiffany (14:00.487)
Mm-hmm.
Shun (14:01.958)
So I remarried Jimmy and I run into the same issue. May I keep Gaines and then may I keep Drew Gaines? And he was like, absolutely not. And since I had that conversation with the other husband, I wasn't as upset, I understood and I'm like, okay, so now I have three kids with three different last names because I didn't have Frankie at the time. I'm like, oh my God. So I'm sorry, I did have Frank, but Frank didn't matter because he was a Gaines. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't have to have that argument.
Tiffany (14:12.555)
Yeah.
Shannon (14:13.828)
Hehehehehehe
Tiffany (14:17.884)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Shannon (14:29.068)
Right, right.
Tiffany (14:29.503)
Yeah, right.
Shun (14:31.282)
Thank God. It wasn't a fourth last name. It was one I went back to so I was able to do that But I was explaining that to both of them and I'm so happy you said that cuz somebody I'm not crazy They thought I was crazy when you show up to these kids school You don't want them to see oh Yvette Gaines is here for J. Baron Drew because like you said that Automatically send signals of single mom a broken home automatically Mm-hmm on the baby
Shannon (14:33.993)
Hahaha
Tiffany (14:34.25)
Yeah.
Tiffany (14:44.541)
Mm-hmm. No? Yeah.
Tiffany (14:49.29)
Right, right.
Yes, that's right. And the bias, I didn't want that bias to start from, I didn't need anything in their minds, you know, putting, setting my child apart. So yeah, I get it.
Shannon (14:57.952)
Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Shun (15:03.43)
totally get that. I totally get that. And I'm happy I wasn't crazy.
Tiffany (15:06.154)
I totally get it. I like the appearance. Yeah, the appearance of unity is good enough. Like perception is reality.
Shannon (15:06.584)
Yeah.
Shannon (15:12.589)
Right.
Shun (15:12.838)
That's it for people who don't need to know right some things you don't need to know the whole story you know what I mean, so that's great and Now Shannon you only have one child so you didn't have to go through the drama You say from that you were smart
Shannon (15:15.907)
Yeah.
Tiffany (15:18.51)
Mm-hmm. Yep.
Shannon (15:24.668)
No, I didn't but I do want to bring up. Yeah. Yeah, but I do want to bring up, you know, um, even growing up with um, You know tiffany mom and her dad, you know, they had the same last name So to me, I guess it's almost the flip side not as hurtful. Of course. We were older than tiffany So one is yeah, it wasn't as hurtful But they were a unit to me just I guess the way tiffany looked at me my brother and sister as a unit, you know because
Tiffany (15:36.6)
Mm-hmm.
Shun (15:42.607)
is who are older.
Tiffany (15:49.477)
Mmmm
Shun (15:52.171)
Wow, okay.
Shannon (15:53.628)
Especially too when we would go places, you know, we were ingrained in our church. We grew up upc, you know, um, and You know I don't know if there was a whole lot of divorce in upc apparently there wasn't in south dakota because Oh, and by the way, in case you don't know tiffany was actually born in south dakota. Um So there wasn't a whole lot of um uh Borscht separation so when they would see us as a family unit they call us the hamansons
Shun (16:00.382)
Mm-hmm.
Tiffany (16:12.822)
Yeah.
Shun (16:13.202)
Okay.
Shannon (16:23.604)
Here comes the Hammons And it would just My blood would boil and I'm like No, that's not me I'm a red fern, I'm a red fern I'm a red fern, you know so
Tiffany (16:23.742)
Yeah, yeah.
Shun (16:26.43)
Mm-hmm.
I'm sorry.
Shun (16:32.67)
I'm sorry.
Tiffany (16:33.658)
And and Sean, let me just interject right here. You see how cool red fern sounds compared to Hammond's? OK, I just say that. OK, go ahead.
Shun (16:42.95)
You just have to make that point. I don't I mean, I think they're both cool. I believe the fifth Okay, but I can see it's definitely a difference
Tiffany (16:48.434)
I'm sorry.
Tiffany (16:52.642)
See? But yeah, that's a good point. Good point, Shannon.
Shannon (16:53.012)
Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, so yeah, so yeah, you were younger. And of course it's scarred you, I'm sure more Tiffany than, you know, us growing up already, you know, years older and thinking, you know, look at the three of them with the same name. And here we are the three of us out here and maybe, you know, unconsciously, I'm not trying to make excuses for our behavior.
But maybe that's why we pumped it up so much and we would, you know, create these cheers and stuff about I'm a red firm for life. I can't remember the actual cheers and stuff we used to do and, you know, do routines around our whole last day because we wanted to celebrate it. And even when I got married and I, you know, a lot of people think I have a cool last name now. They're like, Oh Brazil, but it was a struggle for me to even change my name to Brazil.
Tiffany (17:21.63)
Mm-hmm.
Right, possibly.
Tiffany (17:30.357)
Yeah.
Tiffany (17:34.973)
Right, right.
Shun (17:35.774)
Yeah.
Tiffany (17:45.695)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon (17:50.012)
Because I always knew I said I'm gonna be a red firm for life. That is it And then but nobody's messing with my name. That's my daddy's name, you know, whatever So I you know having a name and that identity Yeah, yeah Yeah, the I the identity with it with the name though. So Tiffany giving up Hammons, you know, how did that feel? I don't know. You were young when you got married you were 21
Tiffany (17:54.951)
Mm-hmm.
Shun (18:01.426)
That name got my daddy's blood on it. You had to Ike turn on. You felt like Ike.
Tiffany (18:04.514)
Okay.
Tiffany (18:13.249)
Yeah.
Tiffany (18:18.862)
22, yep, I was 22, yeah. So when I gave up Hammons and I became a Woods, and then I was a Woods for longer than I was a Hammons. So to me, when I got the divorce, Woods was, I came into my own, I came into myself as an adult with the name Woods. I was a kid with the name Hammons. So to me, I was more of a Woods anyway. So when the divorce happened,
Shannon (18:20.149)
Oh, 22, okay.
Shannon (18:43.704)
Yeah.
Shun (18:46.782)
I thought it was easier to keep that name. You felt like you earned that. Yeah, you grew into you with that name. Okay, I get it.
Tiffany (18:48.954)
It was easier even. Yeah, I grew into me. That's how I was known. That's how, you know, that's who I'd been my whole life. And then of course my ex husband, he was just like, ah, why do you wanna keep my name? It's my name. I was like, you know, shut up. So.
Shannon (18:51.98)
Yeah, yeah.
Shun (19:07.016)
So he hit the icon you.
Tiffany (19:11.059)
Yeah, yeah, he didn't understand, but in my mind, it wasn't even about my, it wasn't about me. It was all about my daughter. So 100% about my daughter.
Shun (19:11.491)
That name got my dad's blood on it.
Shun (19:19.902)
M.
Shannon (19:22.996)
Yes, yeah.
Shun (19:23.066)
And I totally and I can 100% back you on that because I fought for that tooth and nail with two of my kids I get it and even for me like, you know, you all know all the listeners know from my crazy Stories on my on the podcast from both seasons that's two previous seasons My blend was crazy is heck growing up right because I mentioned my three siblings I gained what my stepdad, you know when he married my mom He had you know three kids and then my father married late my teens and he had
Tiffany (19:29.858)
Yeah.
Shun (19:52.018)
Two kids well there wasn't his biological but his wife had two kids which made him my step-siblings, right? Because you know we were blended by marriage But I was closer with the ones that were grew up in the house with me basically because we were toddlers But that never bothered us growing up psych because I guess we understood like they came with their dad. That's their name We were with my mom. That's our name and then when my mom had five more kids She still kept the last name of my father, right? So it's like all
Tiffany (19:57.776)
Mm.
Tiffany (20:17.043)
Yeah.
Shun (20:18.274)
Eight of my mom's kids had the last name even though we didn't have the same father because mom I told you shannon Mom's a little dumb and it's what she says goes and I think it was because what you said tiffany She's like I don't care if I got different baby daddies. I'm standing my ground And all these kids don't have the same last name So even with you know, even with the drama of us having different fathers at least we had that unity, right? Except when we moved from alabama to new york, right? So it's so many of us. It's 11 of us So some of us are in grade school
Shannon (20:24.588)
Yeah, yeah.
Tiffany (20:27.793)
Okay.
Shannon (20:31.064)
Hehehe
Tiffany (20:31.446)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Shannon (20:33.996)
Hehehehe
Tiffany (20:40.182)
Yeah.
Shun (20:48.438)
Yeah summer in high school and then summer and like um in middle school. So No one really knows the dynamics like you said when you walk into a school You just know these kids are because sisters and brothers, right? But then when people started to get to know us and the clan from alabama, they're like wait a minute They last name oosie. They last name friday. What's what is going on? I mind your business. That's all we had to tell him. So
Tiffany (21:01.151)
Right.
Shannon (21:09.885)
Yeah.
Tiffany (21:10.947)
Mm-hmm.
Shun (21:13.438)
And that's how we left it. That's like this clan full of country kids got all kind of names. They just showed up one day, but you know what? We loved each other so much. Once we checked it, nobody ever questioned it since. So it didn't bother us, you know, as kids, we were good to go. Yeah. So.
Tiffany (21:23.901)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, and that's good. And it, you know, it probably also made a difference because I think you said that it was you and you had a, it was a couple of y'all with the same, like it was more than just one person, right, with the same. But I think when you have groups, like it almost makes it maybe a little bit better because no one feels like by themselves. Yeah, which is good.
Shannon (21:38.636)
Yeah, right, right.
Shun (21:39.93)
Absolutely. Mm-hmm.
Shun (21:44.066)
Little better, but with you it was just you so I can see how you took it that way I totally get that. Yeah Look, it was two units of us even though we were all close But like you said, it was three of them that had the same last name and then it was eight of us You know, so like you said, no one really stood alone in that. So yeah, I get it
Shannon (21:48.401)
Yeah, yeah.
Tiffany (21:50.775)
Yeah. Right.
Tiffany (21:57.83)
Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon (22:03.776)
Yeah, so I want to take this opportunity for me and my older sister and my brother to publicly apologize To my little sister Yes on behalf of all the red ferns
Tiffany (22:14.751)
Aww.
Shun (22:16.641)
on behalf of the children.
Tiffany (22:19.791)
Well, you know, oh my goodness. On behalf of all the sibling sets in the world, you know, yes. But you know, I'm...
Shun (22:22.282)
Hehe
Shannon (22:28.076)
Yeah, the siblings that's in the world. Yes. Never do this to your siblings, people, for those of you listening. Yeah.
Shun (22:34.002)
Never do it because it has a lesson. It has our last in effect
Tiffany (22:34.557)
Yeah.
It is, it's good to be aware. It's definitely good to be aware. And I'm so thankful that time makes a difference. Time and, you know, over time things change and you know, we obviously grew closer and then the difference isn't a difference anymore, which is great. So I'm appreciative of that. I used to feel kind of like a banana in a bowl of apples, but now I'm like a tomato in the bowl of apples.
Shannon (22:52.705)
Yeah.
Shun (22:55.038)
That's right.
Shannon (22:56.056)
Right, right.
Shannon (23:01.6)
Yeah, yeah.
Hehehehe
Tiffany (23:07.522)
I'm still a fruit, but you know, I'm a little more of the part. You know, it's a little bit different, but it is definitely better. It's awesome now. I love my siblings. They've always been amazing. So yeah, I'm thankful.
Shannon (23:09.979)
Right, right, right. Yeah.
Shun (23:10.077)
I'm so gross.
Shannon (23:19.139)
Yeah.
Shun (23:19.294)
That's great.
Shannon (23:23.232)
Yeah, so I kind of regret my earlier, you know, comments about being your second mom, because that makes me a really bad mom.
Shun (23:23.538)
That's awesome.
Tiffany (23:31.454)
Hahaha!
Shannon (23:37.813)
I was a horrible mom.
Shun (23:37.982)
Well What Shannon let me Well, let me apologize Well, let me say this in on the half of the moms that become moms at nine or ten years old We really don't know the importance of these things and that's why people we shouldn't make our kids moms at an early age Could see we really don't know but honestly, let me I'm happy you made that point Shannon Because it's a real serious point that I want to put to that
Tiffany (23:39.702)
Sarah my mom, where's DSS? Take me away!
Tiffany (23:50.786)
Hahaha
Shannon (23:54.066)
Right.
Tiffany (23:54.763)
Yeah.
Shannon (23:58.552)
That's true, that's true.
Yeah.
Shun (24:04.358)
because my mom, you know, was an addict and was out there. My father really wasn't in home and my stepfather worked like crazy. We raised each other, right? And we did become moms at an early age. So the bad part about that is we really don't know when we can do some harm and things. The good thing about that is now that all of our parents are gone to glory, both of my mom's, stepmom, father, stepfather, they're all dead. But now the little siblings still have moms left because we were essentially their moms through life.
Shannon (24:12.512)
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon (24:20.076)
Yeah.
Shannon (24:32.404)
Yes, yes, oh that's beautiful. Yeah.
Tiffany (24:33.834)
Aww, I love that.
Shun (24:34.478)
So when they have marital issues, yeah So when they have marital issues when their car break down and like kids daycares, dude They'll call and say sis could you okay, sis? Could you and you are their mother because this is what you've been their whole life Yeah, so So that's a that's a good point to being moms at early age But it's not when you when you make when you make up chants and theme songs about your little sister shannon That was not so nice Shut the door on the queen was not nice
Shannon (24:42.127)
Yeah.
Tiffany (24:44.414)
Yeah, I love that. Yeah.
Shannon (24:46.528)
Yeah, right, right.
Tiffany (24:52.639)
Mm-hmm.
Shannon (24:55.124)
I'm sorry.
Tiffany (24:56.667)
Yes!
Shun (25:02.834)
But he's got points to being moms at early ages as well.
Shannon (25:05.457)
Yes, yes, yes. Love it.
Tiffany (25:07.104)
Yeah, yeah
Shun (25:09.69)
Alright ladies, I have thoroughly, I mean thoroughly enjoyed this dialogue. I'm telling you, you guys have got anything else to add before we go into our wrap up?
Tiffany (25:18.642)
Me too. So glad to be here. Thanks for having me on.
Shannon (25:22.668)
Yes, thank you.
Shun (25:22.878)
I mean Tiffany you have nothing else you need to badger Shannon about cuz this is it baby We're giving it to you get to get it all out you got it
Tiffany (25:27.918)
No, I'm, I can't, I can't do it all in one shot. I'm gonna save it up. So when you have me on next year or whenever it is, like I'll save up some more for next time.
Shun (25:33.852)
Okay.
Shun (25:39.138)
Okay, save some more for next time. What about you Shannon? You got anything you want to add besides your apology, which I think is so sweet alright, so
Shannon (25:39.881)
Oh my gosh Yes, yes everyone in all the across the world heard it globally in 25 countries
Tiffany (25:46.731)
Thank you.
Tiffany (25:50.514)
Ah, thank you, thank you. Can I get that in writing or I'm just saying, okay. Wanna frame it?
Shun (25:55.561)
Ah.
Shannon (25:58.964)
Yes, yes.
Shun (26:00.846)
Okay, so I write Tiffany then she's like so I can frame it All right, so all right ladies we can do it all night, but we are map up and I'm gonna say In the issue of last name I'll use me I'll use me as a life lesson tonight you know, I have four children three of them have different last name and that's because I Thought it was important for me to go out and do my own thing
And but I did give them their father's last name because I thought bloodline and legacies were important as well So it wasn't just me wanting what mother wants the kid to feel that you know different Or it was because I thought it was important that they knew their last name once they grew up right and developed But I now see Tiffany especially hearing you talk specifically about it that can be harmful So people I'm gonna tell you what we set out to do here on wifey and baby mama
We set out to try to tell you guys to do things the right way from jump and we know that doesn't always happen But if at all possible Go through relationships and marriage in order and under god's covering and wait to have your children once you become one You can avoid having them and wonder and having them wonder who am I supposed to be with different last name? But if that right partner or soulmate god destined for is come on later and a blended family is in our life That's our life
Be sure that your children feel all the same love and never have to question their existence or their importance in a family because of their last name.
Tiffany (27:31.682)
Hmm.
Shannon (27:33.368)
Beautiful.
Tiffany (27:34.154)
That's good. It's really good.
Shannon (27:37.022)
Awesome.
Shun (27:37.662)
All right. All right, well.
Tiffany (27:37.991)
Love it.
Shannon (27:39.776)
Alright now on... Um...or did you...or audience in by... Yaaa
Shun (27:44.146)
through our audience invite, baby. Let's go. The title of a last week song was My Mistake by artist Nico Collins. And our topic was who's running the show. So you know what to do after the show or whenever you're ready to add a new song to your playlist, stop and take a listen peeps, it's a good song. But I will quickly give the same disclaimer that the sites does when you pull that song up.
It has some lines that are deep and refer to days that you might want to harm yourself Or because the loneliness is heaven is it's so hard in certain situations So make it makes you feel some kind of way But it also goes on to say that is never the answer and here at wifey and baby mama We second that hands down love can cure anything love covers a multitude And on this show we like to give you that and we give it up And we hope you feel the genuine love that we have for you all
Now if you can dig that song once you listen or if you guess The tune that goes with the lines dropped here in tonight's episode or any of the tunes dropped this season Be sure to hit us up This is your official invite to email us at wifey and baby mama. That's wifeyandbabymama At gmail.com. All right, baby mama do your thing?
Shannon (29:03.508)
Thank you. Thank you, Sean now on To The fictional family I'm feeling All right, the fictional family. I'm feeling tonight is the burgundy family and you're like burgundy Oh, yes, Ron burgundy For those of you who have not seen Anchorman You're like what kind of what kind of mess is this? Well?
Tiffany (29:07.79)
Thanks for watching!
Shun (29:27.614)
I'm sorry.
Shannon (29:31.392)
Hey, in Anchorman, Will Ferrell and who was Ron Burgundy? And Wes Mantooth, who was Vince Vaughn, they were half brothers, if you all did not realize that when watching that movie. And they had conflict throughout the movie as half brothers. And at the end of the movie, Ron Burgundy had gone down to the San Diego Zoo.
because one of the pandas was giving birth and his girlfriend got trapped down with the bear and he went in to save her. And then his dog had to come in and save them both. And it was the whole thing. And, you know, they're screaming, I don't wanna die. And his dog, he thought had actually been killed because someone had kicked it off a bridge earlier. But the dog came back and spoke animal language to the bear and the bear let them.
Shun (30:16.518)
I'm sorry.
Shannon (30:27.584)
you know, get out of the down out him and his girlfriend get out of there. So as he's climbing up the ladder, he's the last one up the ladder out of the pit or the den or whatever. His brother, his half brother, West Mantube. It's holding the ladder and he's about to push him back down in. And he says, you know, oh, it's a long way. It's a it's a long way down, isn't it?
And Ron Burgundy says, you know, easy, Wes. And Wes says to him, you know, I've been waiting to say this to you for a long time. Almost like Tiffany's been waiting to say you've saved us for a long time. And he says, you know, Wes, his brother says, deep down in my stomach with every inch of me, I hate you. I pure straight hate you.
Tiffany (31:10.339)
Yeah
Shun (31:24.636)
Wow.
Tiffany (31:26.815)
Oh
Shannon (31:27.168)
but it is a comedy. I know Tiffany, he said, but I respect you, but I respect you. So he pulls the ladder back and lets Ron climb up and Ron climbs up and he says to Wes, thank you brother. And Wes kisses him on his forehead. And you'd have to see the movie to understand all the conflict that they've had as to how a touching moment this is for these two men to have this connection.
Shun (31:54.142)
Okay.
Shannon (31:56.728)
for one to say, I hate you, and the other, save his life and pull him on out of there from getting killed from the bear. And that kiss on the forehead saying, thank you, brother. And then Wes says, today we spell redemption, R-O-N for of course Ron, Ron Burgundy. That is the fictional family I am feeling tonight.
Shun (32:23.282)
That is cool. Tiffany. Did that make you feel better, Tiffany?
Tiffany (32:26.31)
Yes it did.
Absolutely.
Shun (32:31.642)
A whole tribute to you. The awesome Josh and.
Tiffany (32:33.81)
I love it. I feel redeemed. I just, yes. Thank you.
Shun (32:39.23)
Awesome, my wifey and baby mama has conquered yet another blended relationship. I love it No, seriously. Thank you Tiffany for sharing. I know we made up, you know joke of I know it was fun It was very it was a lot of fun It was very good, but I know that was something that could be it could weigh on you I see that even in my own kids when they pay way the dozen so Maybe you know in their oldest Shannon would get them my wife and baby mama let him have at it So this has been this has been great for me Having moms with kids with different last names
Shannon (32:44.534)
Yeah.
Tiffany (32:45.446)
Yes.
Shannon (32:54.171)
and.
Yeah.
Tiffany (32:59.508)
Mm-hmm.
Tiffany (33:04.277)
Hahaha
Shannon (33:05.353)
All right. Yes.
Shun (33:09.114)
This was an important show to me. So thank you, Tiffany, for sharing. That was very big of you.
Tiffany (33:12.694)
Thank you. Thank you very much.
Shannon (33:16.576)
And all right, and to all our listeners around the world, we thank you for tuning in tonight, and we look forward to meeting with you all next week. Until then.
Shun (33:26.086)
Love you all.
Mediaboard_sounds (33:45.323)
Family, family