Wifey and Baby Mama

Shun (00:35.985)
Hey, I'm Shawn.

Shannon (00:37.484)
Hi, I'm Shannon.

Shun (00:39.365)
And we're the host of Wifey and Baby Mama. Happy Thursday, family.

Shannon (00:43.756)
Happy Thursday to everyone.

Shun (00:46.973)
We are back for our second week in season five and I'm a little excited, you know, you know We missed you guys much so so much and before we get into it. I think I missed you a little too much I was a little too excited. I got to a little crow from last week. Just a little bit now, baby mama Don't laugh too loud Although I think you deserve to thoroughly enjoy this statement. I'm about to make okay. Enjoy your moment I've been teasing you for a long time

Shannon (01:01.528)
Hi.

Shun (01:11.645)
But listen here y'all I've been threatening to take her black car for four season and mine is now on the line Okay, it seems like I gave out the wrong artist on last week on our brand new segment our Sound off segment Adam Bosch did y'all the people will not be finding one last cry or whatever that was Brian me night I'm on the wrong song Again, so anyways people Bryson was not the artist

Shannon (01:14.574)
Ha

Shannon (01:38.734)
you

Shun (01:39.561)
Last week and the song I repeat he was not the artist y'all. So please I don't have the heart That was the song I get so excited about music as y'all could tell so I was all the way wrong loud and wrong, So Shannon, I'm gonna give you about two seconds to go ahead and laugh it out

Shannon (01:50.286)
See you.

No, no, so who was who was the artist?

Shun (01:58.225)
The artist is James Ingram guys. So Yes, I think who was so underrated Shannon. Do you hear me? He was so underrated I love that man and I don't think he got enough credit. His voice was wonderful and his songs were great So please guys charge it to my head and not my heart. I was a little excited y'all So that legend in his own right did not deserve that. So mr. James Ingram to your Credit I don't have the heart was the title of the song and he was the artist so

Shannon (02:00.973)
James Ingram.

Shannon (02:11.756)
Yeah.

Shannon (02:24.641)
Yeah.

Shun (02:27.705)
If you tried to do your homework y'all or just reminisce, I don't boss shit up. So repeat y'all can start over. There's always room for second chances. Okay, so the mouth of the South got it wrong. I apologize.

Shannon (02:37.919)
Yeah. Well, the good thing about it is, you know, there were people listening and they did catch it.

Shun (02:45.541)
They did. Yeah, right. They corrected me like that one people bracing I was like what I say no people bracing y'all. I ran it back. I said oops So I was so wrong y'all. So please forgive me. All right now that I have righted my wrong Let's get into tonight's you ready Shannon to get into tonight's episode y'all It's titled It passed now what so for the first time we are doing a follow-up or report

Shannon (02:54.787)
Ha ha ha ha ha.

Shannon (02:59.469)
Right. Yeah.

Shun (03:14.375)
part two if you will of a topic you know Shannon will usually flip it will do a flip side of a subject or we'll do a male and female opinion one week after the other but I think Shannon correct me if I'm wrong because you know I was wrong last week people is this not our first continuation

Shannon (03:30.365)
It's our first continuation. You're right. So how about you? Yeah, so how about if you if you don't mind just do a quick little recap short little recap of last week so those who missed it can understand why we're doing this. This follow up.

Shun (03:32.154)
Eee! Hey! So this

Shun (03:48.103)
Okay, so So my peeps y'all get to be a part of history tonight or I continue wasting episode and So some of you guys may have not tuned in just like Shannon said so our first episode our topic was don't pass the torch and the content was what happens when parents pass on emotional or basically stiff traits the kids don't know how to hug they don't know how to really say I love you and Usually it's a cycle that you know transfer down from their parents, which would be our grandparents

You know, they were unemotional creatures then it's passed down to the children in my opinion Shannon our opinion It's a hurtful cycle because the parents continue to pass it on right and it project this harmful trait to their spouses and then to their children and it just keeps Continuing but as we were ending last week episode guys Shannon brought up a very valid part on point The torch was kind of passed to her and she passed it to our son Jay

Shannon (04:26.834)
yeah.

Shun (04:47.261)
And it did not make it to your younger siblings. Is that right Shannon?

Shannon (04:51.741)
Mm-hmm, that's right. Yeah, or even my, no, even my oldest sister, she didn't have it. So I'm in the middle. So I don't know why it only really impacted me when, you know, they're pretty much good. Their children are, you know, a little bit more, you know, well-rounded and balanced, I guess.

Shun (04:53.713)
who was raised by the same mother.

Shun (05:15.631)
Make you feel so so did your mother love and hug on them or did they automatically just pick up the trait? They just automatically broke the cycle. I'm sorry. That's what I should say So you automatically picked up the trait because I'm not getting loved I'm not getting hugged so I don't know how to pass that on now. Let me ask you this Shannon Does your siblings have more than one child?

Shannon (05:19.394)
No.

I think automatically, mm-hmm, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Shannon (05:38.462)
No, that's the crazy part. Me and my sisters, we each have one. Yeah, my mother's children. Yeah, not my dad's, but my mother's, we all have one child. Yep. But the difference might be too that they have girls. I'm the only one with a boy. So I don't know.

Shun (05:40.395)
Really?

Shun (05:44.285)
That is right, right

Shun (05:52.359)
That is very interesting.

Shun (05:57.725)
And if you guys were listening last week I did say that Shannon sometimes with the boys I said especially sons because men are already naturally some men I won't say because you talked about we'll be in a softie sometime. So some men some men are as Not as affectionate when some are because my ex-husband Jay Brown's father was very emotional I mean very so we can't put everybody in a box and just like you can't put our relationships in a box

Shannon (06:07.095)
Yeah.

Shannon (06:11.406)
Yes he is.

Shannon (06:22.125)
Hmm.

Shun (06:27.591)
But it's just so interesting being raised under the same roof with the same mother. Now, I want to reiterate that my father was the exact same way, you know, until I loved him out of it though. So let me ask you this, is your mom still kind of standoff as half hug? See you later. She's loving now. Now she's very loving now. Hmm.

Shannon (06:27.745)
Right.

Shannon (06:44.239)
no, not at all. Not at all. Very, very. Yeah. think when she reached about, you know, when she got in her forties, something switched in her and, you know, we became a lot tighter. We started to do things more as a family vacations and, you know, for years, for 16 years, I want to say we did a family vacation, everyone.

Shun (06:56.55)
Okay.

Shun (07:02.929)
Okay.

Shannon (07:13.869)
every single year and those were things that did not happen before. Yeah. yeah, not at all.

Shun (07:20.093)
Before when you guys were younger now see we did have family vacations, even though my mom had the problems that she had She loved hard and as I said, know addictions or sickness. They're not something people choose You don't choose to be that way, you know, it's just the you know path sometimes we take the wrong path and we end up on that street and sometimes we stay there a little longer than we should or you know, You don't come off at all. But anyways, my father Was like that because he my grandmother was like that, you know

Shannon (07:35.565)
Right.

Shannon (07:44.205)
Hmm.

Shun (07:49.295)
Until I loved it out of him and I mean I would constantly hug my dad. I would constantly say I love you and it was not With the intention of healing from the condition because I truly believe that's a condition that had been passed down to him You know, I don't know what you call it, but I know it's not normal and as a child I didn't even really recognize it was a thing, you know until you get older and I was able to process the fact that My grandmother his mom was exactly the same way

Shannon (08:12.716)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (08:19.111)
Kind of cold and unemotional. She loved us. She fed me She tried her best honey to teach me to cook biscuits that didn't work out but she She taught me some other valuable life lessons. She led me to the Lord She taught me how to pray how to keep money in my pocket you keep you five dollars So that's what my father me I would hear me talk about that my book and in my movie I keep me five hours and that's a you know, that's a that's a nod to my grandmother You know don't go nowhere bro. Keep your five hours back then baby, but you was balling with five hours

Shannon (08:22.111)
Okay.

Shannon (08:27.263)
You

Shannon (08:39.213)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Shannon (08:48.427)
That's right.

Shun (08:48.497)
But I'm a cry can't be you can't even get your uber right now But you know, I tell you what it probably probably can play somebody still came in me five bucks to run there. But anyways My grandmother was just like that emotionally those, know stiffed up when you hug her, know So I just thought that's who they were but again my mother's side of the family girl They're gonna hug and kiss you until you can't feel your lips them people was some loving people. Okay? That my aunts to this day. I love you, you know

Shannon (08:56.062)
huh.

Shun (09:15.493)
And my mother's been, God rest her soul, my mother's been dead since 2011. But because of my aunties, I really don't feel this thing because you would think they still love me, they still cook for me, bring me cakes by my kids' gifts. So, you know, that side of the family, they knew how to love. They were a little more messed up than my father's side, but they love each other and we love each other. And I would like to think that all that love that was given to me from my mother's side was able to drown out whatever.

Shannon (09:31.03)
Right.

Shannon (09:35.349)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (09:43.193)
Over the years, you know was passed down to my father and He he received the change. I I believe before he passed he say I love you without hesitating You know, he didn't he love you too. He never ever really was like you talking to him He says well, I love you. He never really got to that point, but I would say I love you to my father shannon He would like pause I it would shock him and jimmy was the same way. So watching this is crazy. I'm telling you it's really a thing

Shannon (09:53.111)
So.

Shannon (10:01.899)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (10:10.541)
Yeah, yeah.

Shun (10:11.963)
But before he passed, he would say, I love you without a pause. And my kids, girl, he loved them kids like no other. And I was able to watch him like, now he wasn't like that with me as a child, but he loved my children. So he was, you know, my father lived with me for about eight years. And when I stayed back down south and I was able to see a different side of him, he would get up and make the kids breakfast and everything. He wouldn't touch a stove when we were little. It was all in my mom or grandmother.

So I watched him become a whole different man with his grandkids. It just how you spoke about Jay and his grandmother on last week. He didn't have that affection towards you, but he had it toward her. And it's just a funny thing, you know?

Shannon (10:43.649)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, yeah.

Right. Yeah. And the book. No, no, no. Go ahead.

Shun (10:56.315)
So with your sisters, go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead.

I was gonna pull you into because they have daughters you think that made a difference because you watch are they so their kids are more loving but are your sisters receptive to the kids? That's what I wanted to know Okay

Shannon (11:12.589)
yeah, yeah they are. I don't know if it's because they had daughters or if they would have been the same way with their, if they had sons as well. But for some reason they said, okay, we want to do things differently. And I didn't think about it. I didn't think about, you know, a lot of times people, they don't see themselves. And I was already, I've spoken, you know,

Shun (11:34.396)
Okay.

Shannon (11:41.87)
our show before, I was always slow to learn anything when it comes to, you know, emotions, when it comes to personal growth, all of that. That was a slow road for me. It took me a long time to really look at myself and connect with who I am. I mean, so my oldest sister, she was to me always deep, even though we're only a year apart. She was, she was light years ahead of me when it came to certain things.

Shun (11:46.096)
Mm-hmm.

emotions.

Mm-hmm.

Shun (11:59.078)
Okay.

Shannon (12:11.777)
And then my youngest sister who's nine years younger, she was always light years ahead, you know? So for whatever reason, the lane I was stuck in, I was stuck in that lane and it was hard for me to, you know, get out of it until, you know, later in life. So I can see honestly, you know, why they were ahead of the curve when it came to raising their

Shun (12:17.552)
Okay.

Shannon (12:41.249)
They're girls versus me raising Jay, you know? Yeah.

Shun (12:44.177)
Jay, now not to get too personal, but just I just want to ask if it's a factor. Were they with the kids father? You know how you and Jimmy try to fill out and work you want about just so I think too Shannon, I think too. That also makes a difference. You understand because you have. Yep, you have both and not even I mean hope it's all we know we preach about it being husband, but not always cases you and I both know none of my children were born.

Shannon (12:49.549)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (12:53.601)
yeah. Yeah, that might be too. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. yeah, were, that was their husbands. Yeah.

Shannon (13:08.641)
Right.

Shun (13:11.771)
We married eventually, but none of my children were born. Actually, I'm married. We have a baby that did not happen, you know, and that's what we hear try to deter people and women to do it the right way. You know, we don't want people to follow our same paths. Sometimes it happens, but at any rate, I think that makes a big difference when you have a child that you can love and you see your husband, because even if you're emotionally detached, if you have this husband that's loving, you kind of jump in and pick up.

Shannon (13:17.226)
Okay.

Shannon (13:22.509)
Mm-hmm. Right. Right.

Shannon (13:29.869)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (13:40.657)
Which is what I think happened with Jimmy and I even though he was kind of unemotional with me and for a lot of women You know for a lot of years he didn't know how to do that I mean the boy told me up until maybe four years ago. I don't hold hands. I don't kiss what the excuse me, sir, It wasn't it wasn't like a long time ago that he's learning to be more affectionate But I think he watches me and my children our children

Shannon (13:47.947)
Yeah. Yeah.

Shannon (13:54.158)
Yeah, yeah.

Shannon (14:02.188)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (14:07.201)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (14:08.029)
I don't care how old they are. Jamila's like she's 26. She come home broke. Hey, baby I'll grab my baby kisser. She freezes up like her dad, but I still do it and I think that He watched me love the kids and I think that breaks him down So that's why I asked that question because that little Frank honey, he loves him down. He can't wait to get in the door He runs and jumps and he tackles him and I think all of that over the years You know with me still praying and asking God to change his heart. I think all of that made it made a difference

Shannon (14:15.184)
Yeah.

Shannon (14:25.271)
No.

Shun (14:36.935)
So I think that's what happened with your girlfriend that made a difference. They had someone to show them even if your mom didn't. So I think that kind of, I'm not saying that's the complete answer, but I'm sure it played a part.

Shannon (14:37.324)
Yeah.

Right.

Shannon (14:44.193)
Right, yeah.

Shannon (14:50.623)
yeah, yeah. And I'm not sure what made me one day take a look at, you know, look at your son. It obviously was too late because, you know, he was grown by the time I realized, you know, when we hug each other, it's a, well, when I say too late, I mean, you know, he was developed. Yes. And, and even I told you, my mother kind of changed in her forties and I'm thinking back on what,

Shun (15:05.126)
It's never too late He was he was already in his ways uh-huh I get you I get

Shannon (15:19.443)
made her change. had a lot to do with my Cuban stepfather. When I tell you this man was the most loving, my gosh, yes, he loved all of us and we were together all the time. we did, that's when all the family vacations started, when he came into our lives and we were inseparable. And another thing that, yeah, yeah. And then,

Shun (15:24.775)
Mm-hmm.

Love's owner.

Shun (15:43.131)
What the what a difference loves make baby what a difference love makes yeah

Shannon (15:48.0)
Another thing that happened is there was a story down here where a 20 something girl was missing for two weeks and she ended up being murdered by Charlotte's famous serial killer. But her family didn't report her missing for two weeks. And I remember talking to my mother about it and I had to be, I don't know, 24.

Shun (16:00.956)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (16:06.621)
Wow.

Shannon (16:15.661)
23, something somewhere around there. And I was on the phone with my mother, a rare occasion, because we didn't talk that often. And we're talking about this case because it rattled everyone because Charlotte was considered really safe back then. And this was in the 90s. And she said, I can't believe someone wouldn't report their daughter missing for two weeks. How could they not know she was missing for two weeks? And I said to my mother, I said,

Shun (16:16.093)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (16:33.124)
huh. huh.

Shannon (16:46.195)
I don't speak to you for a year. You wouldn't know about the only person that would know I was missing. If something happened to me would be Laverne, my best friend. I said, you wouldn't have known if something, if you didn't see me. And that struck her. And I think that was the turning point when she realized, Hey, I don't talk to my daughters. You know, I don't know where they are half the time now.

Shun (17:04.955)
Wow.

Shannon (17:15.785)
If she calls me in the morning and then she calls back a few hours later and she can't reach me, she sends out the alarm. Yes, my gosh. Everyone's calling me. Where you at? Where you at, Shannon? Where you at? Mom's looking for you. I said, my gosh. I was taking a nap or my ringer was off, whatever.

Shun (17:23.816)
Ha ha, I up a smoke signal.

Shun (17:37.677)
trying on some pantyhose. My phone in my purse.

Shannon (17:42.028)
Right, right. But back then, you know, it was, it was like, it was normal. And she didn't see it. And I didn't, you know, think I didn't think it was odd. But when she was going off about, when she said, how could they not know? How could they not know their daughter was missing for two weeks? And I said, hmm.

Shun (17:50.011)
Wow.

Shun (17:56.015)
Until that conversation. Wow.

Shannon (18:06.061)
I only see you on Christmas or only seeing on Thanksgiving or whatever, because that's how our relationship was. We lived in the same city. I was living in Charlotte. I was back from Buffalo living in Charlotte and I didn't see her like that, you know? And so.

Shun (18:17.041)
Wow.

Once a year it reminds me that reminds me shanna of a story being mary jane I used to watch that series you you watched that series back in the day. That was my joint You never watch band. Lord Jesus this gonna be the death of me your Shannon's this Shannon gonna be the death of me your I'm Lord Jesus, but anyway So on that series, you know, she was well, let me give you I'm pretty sure everybody else in the world knows what there is But if you don't be a Mary Jane was a she was a news reporter

Shannon (18:29.101)
No, I did not. I never saw it. I know. Take my black card.

Shun (18:49.615)
And she did a story shana on a lady who had been missing dead on her couch for three years shannon And you know how they found her? The cable company for three years after three years. They wanted their like box their their materials back So they had to get into the house. So we're girl apartment You weren't paying your rent honey. I should have moved in there because they want collected no rent. Okay, so

Shannon (18:56.941)
Shannon (19:05.97)
yeah, their equipment.

You

Shun (19:15.901)
But can you understand it? But they told the story to speak of what people really miss you the detachment that we have in today's world with social media is what their angle was but what you're saying is crazy like people who have no emotional attachments what they didn't miss this girl for three years Shannon Do you know how crazy that is? They found her her skeletal. What's the word? You know, it's a it's an official word for you No, but yeah, but but it's when you've become like bones only

Shannon (19:23.661)
in the home.

Shannon (19:34.379)
when when

Shannon (19:39.67)
remains.

Shun (19:44.207)
Mortified so like like morbid they found her body in just a skeletal state on her couch. Isn't that crazy and The only reason they knew is because the cable people wanted their box. But anyways That's why I think these topics are so important. So I want to touch really quick Shannon So guys so that was our reference you guys know, we don't have the fictional family anymore We just have one segment for a new season So I'm we always give y'all a little touch of something so y'all don't miss it too much. But anyways

Shannon (19:48.779)
Wow. Yeah, that is crazy.

Shannon (20:00.61)
Yeah.

Shannon (20:08.514)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (20:13.693)
Now I want to just talk about one other side of the torch shannon and that's habits and actions right outside of loves and hugs You know my mother as I spoke about my book and you know some i'm sometimes on this podcast You know, she had some little unsavory behavior at times and while my older siblings and I thankfully we were able to move out early on, know I think the the oldest six of us we were gone before 18 But the younger ones they were too small to move on or to escape it, you know

Shannon (20:28.799)
Ha ha ha ha.

Shannon (20:37.29)
Hmm.

Shun (20:41.369)
So they endured the bulk of her behaviors and her habits and until she passed They have all of her ways because they've been with her right and it's frightening that they have the same behavior Even down to the parental hang-up shannon of not loving their kids. it's like watching myself when I watch my nieces and nephews

Shannon (20:50.188)
Right.

Shun (21:03.901)
It's like watching myself sometimes go back to my childhood, you know because I Endured my mother having an addiction and it saddens me because I know that they're also sick. It's not stuff they choose It's not intentional, but I wonder sometimes is it just all they know or is it? Them saying well, my mom did it to me. So, you know, they're gonna have to endure it too or I made it through and

Shannon (21:18.603)
Right. Right.

Shannon (21:24.621)
Shannon (21:32.094)
I made it through.

Shun (21:33.917)
It saddens me, you know, because some of the things I went through growing up, I wouldn't wish on anybody, Shannon. And to see them go through that, just, you know, I just hope that they listen to this, because I've talked about it with them until I'm blue in the face. So maybe if they hear it coming from a different angle, not as me preaching or me scolding, they can understand how even at 49, it affects me. And it'll affect their kids too, if they don't change, you know.

Shannon (21:35.469)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (21:40.907)
Right.

Shannon (21:53.485)
Hmm.

Shannon (21:59.67)
Mm-hmm.

Right, right. Yeah. no, you're you're.

Shun (22:05.469)
So I apologize, but I vowed that my children would never feel, or see some of the things that I did growing up. And anyone who knows me, Shannon, well, you know me so. You know that I go above and beyond for my children. And I can't even admit that I overcompensate sometimes. And it took my husband to bring me back a little, like, chill. It's not always money either, Shannon. I think it's like, like I said,

Shannon (22:12.183)
Mm-hmm.

and

I think.

Shannon (22:29.141)
Right. All right.

Shun (22:34.105)
Think maybe I did this reference one time Shannon I will go to three different restaurants in one night because if one doesn't like this or that But I didn't see it as spoiling them. You know what? I would think about I didn't say even as them taking advantage of me All I could remember is what it felt like to be hungry, you know because my mother hasn't been home for three or four days or You know, it would trigger me, you know So in my mind I wanted them to eat and if I got to go to three different places, they will never know hunger, you know and

Shannon (22:49.224)
Shannon (22:53.739)
Yeah, yeah.

Shannon (23:01.621)
Wow.

Shun (23:02.895)
A mother's love goes deep, ma'am, when you've been through those kind of things. it's a fine line too, Shannon. And I thank God that I raised grateful kids and they didn't overtake or abuse me. You know what I'm saying? Because of that, because of my heart to them. And I see the entitlement slipping through sometimes, don't get me wrong. And we can say that might be a little torch that was passed, but the reality is it's not the same for us all, Shannon. So if your kids...

Shannon (23:06.759)
and

Shannon (23:16.97)
Right, right.

Shannon (23:31.509)
That's true. That's true.

Shun (23:32.817)
are born with silver spoons. Let's talk about that. They can pass that on too. we got it. That's a fine line as well because we're pretty much headed to a plastic spoon economy with this administration. Okay. So we might need to teach our kids both sides of the tracks. Okay. And think about it. mean, that's the reason we think, I think, you think Shannon, these topics are important and has to be a good balance. There will never be a perfect balance people, but we try to

Shannon (23:45.529)
yeah, we are right, right.

Yeah.

Shun (24:02.459)
We try to preach a good balance.

Shannon (24:04.907)
We do. And some things that we may have thought were kind of kind of mold us and make us a little bit more resilient. So some things I do thank my mother for because I did arrive to a certain place in life and society because of her hands-off approach.

so it kind of, it kind of made me stronger and just like with you, know, a lot of the things that you went through, made you into the, the exactly, exactly. And, something they even, yeah. And even something a little more simple that, me and Jay were talking about, just a couple of weeks ago, he talks about how he's an adventurous eater when it comes to food, because

Shun (24:30.704)
Right, exactly.

Shun (24:39.493)
make me the boss chick that I am today. It's it.

Shannon (24:59.789)
I raised him the way I was raised. You know, unlike how you raise your children going to all the different places. It's you're going to sit here and eat this until you know it's finished. You're going to clean your plate. I don't care if you like it or not. You're going to eat it because that's how I was raised. name those special menus for you little boy. You're going to eat this because that's that's how I grew up. And so he thanked me.

Shun (25:13.917)
Yeah?

Right.

Shannon (25:23.533)
Just a couple of weeks ago we were talking about and he was talking about all the different cuisines He likes and well, he likes to cook anyway, so but he says it's because mom you made me eat what he said mom because you made me eat whatever was on the plate and said that's right you had to because I didn't have a choice so you didn't have a choice now not saying that's the right way, you know, Yeah, yeah

Shun (25:32.133)
Right. He's a chef, baby.

Shun (25:41.124)
Hahaha!

That's a fact It is I mean I'm gonna tell you something that's the way you know old school did it you know grandmother now my grandmother house ain't no three different restaurants, baby You're right. You're gonna eat what's on this plate and you don't pick the peas and shelled them and washed them I don't want to see him no more, but you're gonna eat her so no no I mean I think listen there's no there's no blueprint to this like it is marriage, but we just have to be careful

Shannon (26:02.419)
Right, right, right.

Shun (26:12.219)
What we're passing down because some cycles never never end You know, so we just got to be careful that it's not something that we you know, we can't get away from or we you know Can't break and break away from later. Yeah so

Shannon (26:14.049)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Shannon (26:23.437)
Yeah, something that's damaging, you gotta understand, once something is damaged, the repair process, the healing process can sometimes be lifelong and sometimes can never happen. You look at how many people go into addiction and some type of self-sabotage is usually due to the damage that's brought on.

Shun (26:41.329)
That's right.

Shannon (26:51.757)
And some people might say, so what your parents didn't hug you. You're not that bad off. At least you ate. And I did. Oh yeah, I ate. You know, I hadn't clothes. had the, you know, a really good childhood if you think about it. I just didn't have the hugs. I just didn't have the I love yous. But a lot of that is damaging to having healthy relationships later in life. And yeah.

Shun (26:52.379)
happen to them.

Shun (27:15.685)
later on absolutely absolutely I totally agree well I put a little spin on it so do you have anything else you like to say before we wrap up think we touched it off

Shannon (27:21.26)
Hmm.

Shannon (27:28.657)
That's it for me. Yes. Thank you for being vulnerable and sharing and you know, we haven't seen this side of you yet.

Shun (27:35.281)
Absolutely.

Well, I had to be you know, I have to be I have to use I have to save my tough guy for this podcast cuz I got to be the soft girl at home Jim is already a tough guy. We don't need two people here banging on the walls, but But anyways, it's no problem. I didn't I didn't think it's still affecting me It's just it's sometimes it does and that's what I'm saying Sometimes it does not go away and sometimes it does it just takes a little longer. But anyways, we'll wrap up tonight with this

Shannon (27:46.955)
Yeah, yeah.

Shannon (27:57.982)
yeah.

Shannon (28:03.874)
Right.

Shun (28:06.873)
Love is to be shared, is to be passed down as free as the air we breathe. And if you weren't brought up in love or shown affection, you know, as a child, pray for your partner who was, pray for a partner who was. And when they express that love and affection, you know, accept it without a fight. And if you never have relationships, you may stay single forever. Learn how to love yourself the right way. You know, you deserve it. But most importantly, if you have children, take

our advice and break that mold with them. It can change their lives. It changed mine because despite the many flaws my mom did have, she loved me and of that I was sure and that left the door open for the healed woman she eventually became to have an opening to come back and bridge that torn relationship. The unhealed version of her creative, you know, her love kept that door open. It kept me hoping and it changed my life when she did.

So please don't pass the torch. Please don't pass the torch of emotionless, cold-heartedness. Don't pass that down to your children. Don't pass it on to your spouse. And if you have passed that torch, or if it's been passed to you, and you say, what? Then you be the change. Let love live. That's the only way our generations and our lives are gonna be restored.

Shannon (29:27.977)
I love that. Let love live. Beautiful song.

Shun (29:35.293)
All right, we're going to our last segment for tonight.

Shannon (29:37.037)
right, into sound off.

Shun (30:05.403)
Okay, so as Shannon just mentioned we are now in our sound off segment, which is a new segment for us this season As I mentioned just a little while ago. We took off our fictional family So we're gonna play music of all genres of all eras to try to you know Broaden your database, you know or get your ears started. Maybe just bring back some memories So our sound off song for tonight is this house by McKeevey I'm sorry, Evie McKinney. I'm gonna get this right tonight

Shannon (30:35.24)
you

Shun (30:35.297)
This house, Evie McKinney. I got it y'all. Evie, V I E. I want you guys to look it up. Her first name is Evie, V I E. Her last name is McKinney. Called this house. It's gonna touch your heart. It's gonna change your minds. It's gonna make you wanna love your families. So that's your homework for the night. And Shannon, if anyone has a song they wanna give us, or if they wanna give us a song to go to a topic, or independent artists might wanna be, you know, looking to be her.

Shannon (30:56.087)
Yeah.

Shun (31:04.614)
Where could they send their suggestions to?

Shannon (31:06.701)
Yes, send them to wifey and baby mama at gmail.com wifey and baby mama at gmail.com. There could be a song that you're writing down the street listening to and you think, Oh wow. think, you know, Sean and Shannon should touch on this. This could be a topic. This could be something, um, because it moves you, it can move other people. And, uh, that's the point and purpose of our podcast. So.

Shun (31:36.569)
Absolutely.

Shannon (31:36.759)
Feel free to comment and give your thoughts on the sound off segment at wifey and baby mama at gmail.com.

Shun (31:49.671)
Yes, ma'am.

Shannon (31:52.861)
All right. So I think that is it for tonight. And like we always say, we appreciate you all listening in. We look forward to this, you know, every Thursday and we can't wait for next week. And until then, you all have a great week and love you all.

Shun (32:14.311)
We love you all.

Bye.