Wifey and Baby Mama

Shun (00:36)
Hey, I'm Shawn.

Shannon (00:37)
Hi, and I'm Shannon.

Shun (00:39)
And we're the host of wifey and baby mama. Happy Thursday family. Happy Thursday, baby mama We are blessed and thankful to be with you guys yet another week and as we're seeing daily So many legends and icons are going to glory and we did a special shout out to our frankie Beverly and rich homie kwan a couple of weeks ago Because how could you not right but it doesn't undercut any of the heaven is lost that we endure

Shannon (00:44)
Yes, happy Thursday to you.

Yes, we are.

Shun (01:07)
We lose one great icon after another whether it be an act in Entertainment, you know or just life and our own families and friends. So You know, let's always remember to be kind and gentle right as we never know when that one day is our last day So rest well to all the ones we've lost and with that summer reminder of humility We will get on with tonight's episode which is titled this peaceful now

We had our first guest miss mini James on last week and we discussed emotional IQ and How she likes Shannon and I have a unique relationship with the other mother in her blend and some people can dig it You know and some people cannot you know, you don't always have the negative Nancy's like the person that we shall let remain Nameless as you discussed last week, baby mama

Shannon (02:00)
I wish I could say his name. really didn't.

Shun (02:06)
Yeah, you know, but we're gonna let him remain anonymous because we nice like that, you know But more than people like him also I want to discuss the the the distasteful parents on the opposite side of blends You know because that's more important than the negative names is because child you can do with or without those but parents we have to get along so we purposely chose to run this episode right after emotional IQ because it really drive because it really drives home

Shannon (02:11)
Yes, yes.

rain.

Shun (02:35)
that all blends are not feasible. All of them are not going to work. And it's not always the new partners that causes the friction. Sometimes it's the baby mama and the baby daddy themselves that create the hostility and that my people has to stop Shannon.

Shannon (02:54)
Yeah, it does. It has to stop. you know, when you have a baby mama or the baby daddy and neither one of them cares that there's discord or, you know, there's disruption within the the blend, you know, that that says a lot. If you if you don't care enough to to want everyone to get along, you know.

Shun (03:11)
Mm-hmm.

It does.

Shannon (03:23)
That says a lot. And a lot of times, you know, we've seen this, it's both. It's not one or the other. A lot of times it is the father and the, yeah, and the father and the mother living in that chaos and thinking that's normal, thinking that's fine, thinking it shouldn't be any other way, just like the person we won't name.

Shun (03:31)
Sometimes it's both.

Right Right and and this is one topic I can shamefully say as an unlearned young mother, you know I felt that because I didn't have anyone to teach me any better or it shows like this or a podcast like this that I could reference to Baby, you know all we knew was beef when I was growing up and for all the other countries listening You know that may not be used to our slain. It means physical altercations or beat downs. Okay, I

If you got wrong, we got with you, you know, that's that's all me and my 50 sisters knew you know, we coming now the boys were pretty chilled unless someone hit their sister, know our threateners, you know, then they coming too, but the girls honey, it was set it off Saturdays On any of the baby daddies at any given time if they got out of hand, okay And child we have a lot of baby daddies. I think my mom has 45 50 grandkids right now

Shannon (04:40)
wow.

Shun (04:40)
Mostly yeah and mostly by the girls. So It's some dudes out there with some stories. Let me tell you so I should have invited some of my brother-in-law That's what I call them, right? Because once I figured once you make a child with someone in the family and my eyes you become like family, you know, But baby we'd have been here for a while So maybe not but I bet you somebody got some crazy stories, but my mama daughters are nuts all of us. So

Shannon (04:47)
You

You should have, yes.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's

Shun (05:08)
Whoo child, I thank God for his mercy

Shannon (05:08)
Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Shun (05:15)
So Shannon, I know that you're pretty cool and calm and because I'm in the situation and you have one child and that's with you know, Your baby daddy is my husband. So I know you guys's blend was pretty cool. No, you've had your days as well But it wasn't any intentional hostility and I know I don't know what happened the first 11 years because when I came in the picture Jay was already 11 But I know from moving forward I've never seen you guys to a point that you couldn't maintain You know or couldn't sit down and even if your families had to do it

Shannon (05:22)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Shun (05:44)
But was it something I missed before those first 11 years?

Shannon (05:44)
Yeah.

No, with me having an issue with any of his girlfriends or anything like that. It was always them having an issue with me. They immediately thought I was going to be difficult or being the mother of his child that I would have to bring on the baby mama drama. me being like I've...

always said, a little naive South Dakotian, I was puzzled half the time. It took me a while to pick up on energy to say, wait a minute, they don't like me already and they don't know me. remember, no, I think I told this story before about one girl whenever I was in Buffalo, when I was living in Buffalo or even when I would visit Buffalo, she wouldn't come in the house when I was there.

Shun (06:28)
Right, I but I no go ahead. I'm You said you remember

Shannon (06:45)
And I never understood why until later on, come to find out she thought if she came in, it was going to be something. And that was the furthest thing from my mind because it just wasn't like that with me. It just wasn't there.

Shun (07:03)
Right. But I think I'm more interested to know, you and him have any drama? Was it any of the time when you and he had any toxicity or any of that going on with your child?

Shannon (07:16)
yeah, I remember one incident when Jay was two and Jimmy wanted him to go to bed for whatever reason. I don't remember why, you know, and this is going to sound really benign. Like people were kind of say, that's not really a big thing, but you know, I wasn't used to arguing with anyone. I had never been in any type of relationship where I had any type of.

Shun (07:26)
Mm-hmm.

And that was our first show.

Shannon (07:41)
Yeah, and yeah, and never had any argument with a boyfriend, nothing, never, never any drama. And so when we got into it, simply because I said, he's too, he doesn't have to get up and go to work tomorrow. He doesn't have to get up, go to school. Why are you insisting that this little boy go to bed? And so we got into a little back and forth and it got a little bit rowdy. But other than that, there was stuff

Shun (07:56)
Hahaha

Shannon (08:14)
to do with visitation one time, or trying to let the whole family, not just baby daddy, wanted Jay to stay in Buffalo. And I'm like, no, he can't stay in Buffalo. We're going back to Charlotte and that type of thing. But it was never any long lasting B for a whole bunch of drama simply because

I just, I shut down. I don't go back and forth. So you're to be arguing by yourself. You're going to be screaming and yelling at yourself because I just, I just don't do it. Yeah. Yeah.

Shun (08:44)
That's it.

And see you got to know when Yeah, so you got to know when and someone has to be the adult and that's you know It's crazy because they talk about opposite attracts in relationships, but that's what you and I are opposites attract and our friendship and I think like, know One has to be the calm to the storm because of course I'm the storm right you said that something I'm gonna shut down. No, baby We're gonna go all night. And if you you you get real wrong and go down. So yeah

Shannon (09:07)
Yeah, yeah.

Alright, great.

Shun (09:17)
And Lord, I know all y'all out there probably thank God yourselves like Lord Thank you for making her a better person when I tell some of these stories But I got another one for you and you know what it's cringe-worthy now, but then you know, I thought I Was right because nobody got to disrespect me, you know And I went on and on down ghetto lane, baby as long as I could, you know But again, I was unlearned and I was not afraid of anything anybody right? So, you know where I ended up Shannon in jail

Right in jail. And that's why I'm not ashamed to tell these stories or share these experiences because had someone taught me adequate and you know, the proper way to deal with things, my two children would not have had to watch their mother get dragged out of the house in the middle of the night because I behaved so distastefully. With a ninja, I didn't even want, right? But I had a point to prove. And it was about my respect and it was about don't do, it's not about that. When children are involved,

Shannon (09:48)
Yeah.

and

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Right.

Shun (10:17)
You should always have their best interests in mind. So the short of that long story is my second second daughter's dad took her to an ex's house whom he know I despise. That's a little as she brought I always be referring to. He knew I didn't like her, but he wanted to appease her because he was still sleeping with her, right? He was still sleeping with the both little did I know and he wanted to prove to her that she was important. Like I'm gonna bring her baby over here because you mean just as much to me and we're going to be treated equally. Well, you know what?

Shannon (10:20)
Right.

Shun (10:47)
That's how you know how to end it, right? I went to jail cuz boy don't play with me I read both of them by the end of that night and and he was done, know stick a fork in him He was canceled, but the damage was done though Shannon my child had saw that The one child saw it happen because she was there the both of them saw me get arrested in When I look at it I should have handled that in a million different ways with better results, Results that my children could have been proud of and said, know, my mom handled that well when I get into the

Shannon (10:49)
Yes, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Shun (11:17)
If I ever have this kind of situation, this is how I should handle it. You know, not the way that I did. And I'm not proud of that. You know what I'm saying?

Shannon (11:25)
Yeah, yeah, that's called growth and the fact that you recognize that there are plenty of people, your age or older that still would be that same person and they wouldn't feel anything about it.

Shun (11:39)
Yeah, I don't even I can't I can't recall it's a shame when you get so old. You don't know how old you was I don't even believe I was 30 But I was old enough to know better, you know I know matter of fact I know I wasn't 30 because I remember from my 30th birthday party She that the little girl was walking and my second daughter So I wasn't 30 at the time not even but still too old for the behavior I was displaying so young ladies are young men. Let me let me be the first to tell you that's now how that goes, you know

We all want our respect if it gets too hot, you know walk away And I know some things are easier said than done in the moment, right? But we this why we're pre gaming. That's what wife and baby mommy is. It's a pregame to what what it should be like So so please take heed to these stories and again not because we're right and because we know everything But because I can tell you 100 % that's not the way I should handle that It felt good then

Shannon (12:08)
Great.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Shun (12:34)
But it didn't feel good $1,500 later with the record, you know, that you got to pay to get expunged because now you want to work for the federal government. You get what I'm saying? So it's always consequences to those things. And thank God, you know, he's always gave me favor and grace. I was able to get it, you know, taken care of. I did work for Homeland Security for over 10 years. I still work for the government to this day. It could have been so much worse without his favor and grace, because that's all it was. Because I...

Shannon (12:38)
Bye.

Exactly, exactly.

Mm-hmm. Right.

Yeah.

Shun (13:03)
didn't have the ability to change me. I had to go to God and He changed who I was.

Shannon (13:08)
Yes, and you said it in the beginning is what you saw growing up. So what we're trying to get across to everybody is, you know, what do you want to show your children? know, what kind of example? Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Shun (13:14)
Absolutely.

That's right because what I show is what I displayed what I was shown I'm sorry what I was shown is what I displayed because in my household We don't do disrespect. That's what we would talk. Absolutely wrong. It was so Now I do teach my kids. It's a level. So so don't get me wrong. We don't lay down If you can walk away do so this is how I teach my children if you can make a better choice at that time do so

Shannon (13:47)
Yeah, yeah.

Shun (13:52)
I mean maybe this is right or wrong, but if you touch me now negotiations is off now everybody handles stuff different But if no one's put their hands on you, you know And if it's just a matter of you want to be right or your your respect don't take it to that level again You know I have to just make that disclaimer because I don't want anybody to be missed like I thought I was gonna hit her and get away with it I have not changed that much keep your hands to yourself But at that point no one had touched me. It was no reason for that

Shannon (13:57)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Right.

Yeah, yeah.

Shun (14:21)
But my my pride and my respect and my teaching was if somebody disrespect you go deal with it And i'm telling you that could have went bad on a thousand different levels because hey shanna Let's start what I was in somebody else's house and we all know the rules to that My mama taught me the rules if you go to someone's house, you're going to usually get what you're looking for But I disregarded all of that, you know because I was big bad sean Honey, I was a force to reckon with and again

Shannon (14:32)
yeah.

Right, right, right.

huh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Shun (14:51)
That's not what you want to do guys. Emeril's.

Shannon (14:53)
All right. Yeah, I remember in high school, my senior year, we ran a basketball game. I was dating the best one of the basketball players. And he was seeing another girl. So but I wasn't his girlfriend. I guess she wasn't his girlfriend. You know, in high school, you just kind of.

Shun (15:17)
Right. Hang it out. Kicking it. Kicking it.

Shannon (15:18)
you know, see people hanging out. But she was, she was, yeah, kicking it, but she was trying to claim him, of course, because he was one of the, I guess, little superstars at the school and one of the most, the most popular on the court. And during halftime at home game, I'm sitting in the bleachers surrounded by my friends, my crew.

And this little girl come marching up to stomping up the bleachers to me. Stomping up the bleachers. And her mother just happened to be a teacher at the school as well. And so her mother was there at the game, sitting off to the side, not too far from where I was. But the girl comes stomping up and she just starts going off on me, you know, saying whatever. I don't even remember half of what she said because

I really did not care what was coming out of her mouth. And she was saying, he's mine and he's this and he's that. And I mean, she just went on a rant and my girls, you know, had Laverne with me. You know, Laverne, Laverne was ready to jump. And I'm like telling them, hey, you know, leave this little girl alone. So when she finished, she said, so what you got to say? What do you have to say?

Shun (16:30)
Right.

Ha

Shannon (16:43)
And I'm just looking at her and then I just calmly say, I don't have anything to say to you. And then I said a curse word, which was uncommon for me because I didn't start really, really cursing until, you know, my twenties. but I did call her the B word and she, you would have thought I smacked her. I'm like, you up here calling me all kind of names. Yeah. She was like, live it.

Shun (16:56)
Mm-hmm.

shit.

But I call you one name and now you're ready to go.

Shannon (17:12)
And her mother intervened at that moment and told her, you went to her. She didn't come to you. So take your little butt back over there and sit down. But I wasn't, Uh-huh, yeah, Yeah, right, right. But no, wasn't gonna.

Shun (17:21)
See?

And it seems it seems like see her mother was with the right upbringing, know Her mother wouldn't with it like you the mother knew the rules you you came to her

My mother didn't know the rules, No, after I beat this girl down, my mother meets me at the house and get in the car and chase her. Now I'm finna go beat her down for touching my granddaughter. I was taught the complete opposite. Girl, girl, listen. And brought two, three sisters with her. Like, we just, what? I'm like, my God, mom, we all going to jail. But thank God, only me, only I went. They, I was able to convince her to go home, take my kids and.

Shannon (17:40)
But I wasn't in a fight or nothing. Yeah. Lord. Lord.

Yeah, yeah.

Ha ha ha ha.

Shun (18:03)
You know, I'll see you later and girl they knock right on that door in the middle of the night boop boop boop I'm like, my god, so that was the last time They saw him as and that wasn't the first time I've been in jail But it was the last time because I learned but you know and I got to get home and answer my two kids in the morning mama Where are you and you got to look your kids in the face? Now i'm trying to think of a lie my brother who was sick of me and my mess He said she was in jail for fighting. That's all she always doing. I'm like

Shannon (18:08)
Yeah, yeah.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Shun (18:31)
Would you say that he said because maybe you will realize you need to stop girl You're go to jail and one day you gonna come home And I'm telling between his words and the judge telling me if I see you in here one more time for disorderly conduct You're gonna do 30 days Sir, he's never saw me again. Thank you, sir for the the morning But it's sometimes it takes those harsh, you know those wake-up calls to be like what am I doing here? So between my baby's face in the morning both of them, you know, where were you?

Shannon (18:32)
Bye.

Yeah, yeah.

Yes, yes.

Shun (19:00)
waited up for me and the judge telling me and I'm like Is it worth it? So that's what we want to get to it's a very distasteful all of it is none of it was worth it so I'm glad you shanna has some sense growing up because could you imagine Both of us back in the day being the firecrackers that we were June honor ran down to some of Jimmy broads to a lot of them So can you imagine both of us running around just wrecking them?

Shannon (19:06)
Right. Yeah.

you

huh.

Yeah, we probably wouldn't have the relationship we have today though, if we weren't that yin and yang because, yeah.

Shun (19:28)
Eggs and now girl

Somebody be right straight now. I'll still be doing time girl is it's hard to calm me down But you know, you're the calm in the storm here So I'm glad that you were not and I got to take lessons from you saying, know I you got to do all that, you know, so I thank God for his guidance cuz baby mama, you know Whoo, but anyway, that's a Go ahead

Shannon (19:51)
Yeah, yeah, I remember one. Yeah, I remember one time even with my husband, we were discussing some issue with one of his exes and he said something like, you get her, wouldn't you? And I'm like, no. He said, what? He said, I said, I would get you, but I don't have any beef with any woman. I said, I'm married to you.

Shun (20:11)
no.

Shannon (20:20)
So if you did anything crazy or whatever, I'm coming for you, not her. And he had never, I guess, experienced or heard anything like that. He says, I can't believe you wouldn't go get her or you wouldn't do that. No. I have never went for the woman.

Shun (20:34)
No, well, well, I'm gonna just go ahead And defend myself. I beat both of them up. I got him too. I didn't just get her trust he got he got work, too They got it both got it, but i'm just saying I get what you're saying But I I get it because I got him because you took her there But I beat her down because you was holding when I walk in house and I told you don't touch my daughter So what I would have done vice versa is told him. Nope. Take that girl's baby home You know, she don't like me. I don't want no mess her and a whole family a little off

Shannon (20:43)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, right, right.

Shun (21:04)
Go on go ahead, but you know, she wanted to play family So they both got a family I gave them a family package But again if I had to choose I wouldn't have did that But in who that's enough embarrassment for me today I I recuse myself from these situations and I tell you all to Handle it with much class intact as you can baby. Mommy you have anything else though before we wrap up?

Shannon (21:13)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Well, I did want to bring up real quickly, you know, a celebrity example of distasteful. You know, Courtney Kardashian is married to Travis Barker, who used to be married to Shanna Mofer. And she's always, Shanna has always had an issue because

Shun (21:44)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Shannon (21:52)
of her jealousy of whoever Travis has been with, even before Courtney Kardashian. So there's always been beef and public beef and she makes it known and she talks on her social media accounts about Courtney and Travis's PDA and all of this stuff. When, you know, she's been divorced from Travis for too many years. I don't know, probably over 12, 13 years. And...

Now the daughter that she shares with Travis has a really good relationship with Courtney Kardashian and Shama doesn't like that. And so the daughter's like, please, mom, know, banging with her mother to just let them have peace. Yes, to have peace. And it's like, how long do you carry that stuff around until...

Shun (22:35)
Let it go. Yeah.

Shannon (22:44)
what you, you know, sick or, you know, have a stroke or cancer or something, it's gonna do something to you.

Shun (22:50)
I tell you something if you carry a lot if you carry long enough It'll make you sick people don't realize that you carry that kind of discord and discontent for those years like let it go So I don't bother the story that closely. Of course, I know who they are. They're celebrities But so what is our issue was she not wanting to get divorced is she still in love with him? What is our issue with him?

Shannon (22:54)
Yes, yes. Mm-hmm, right.

sound like she's still in love with him every time she talks about him. You know, when we, you and I would say that, you know, when people still got emotions about the ex, if they're still so angry and they still have all of this, you know, pent up, whatever, there's something still there and she can't accept that he's moved on, you know? And so she needs to, I know, get over it.

Shun (23:26)
Yeah.

Well girl that many years like get over it

Jeez.

Shannon (23:37)
So, but yeah, that's the reference I wanted to bring up too, just to let people know that even people their age, they're not young, they should be well beyond the immaturity of that type of mess.

Shun (24:00)
Exactly. Especially after all those years.

Shannon (24:03)
Mm hmm. Yeah.

Shun (24:06)
Wow, well, that's it. Well, that's a great example and I'm happy to hear somebody else Well, at least I got over my drama. I mean I got to be there. I Got over it. I grew up and that's what it takes. It takes time and maturity So if that's all you have baby mama will wrap up with this Before you act think about the way your actions will taste in a few years down the world And if you don't want a bitter taste about yourself later

Shannon (24:07)
That is it.

Yeah.

Bye.

Shun (24:34)
make better choices now. And regardless of the examples and stories we gave here tonight, this isn't like a cut and dry moms or dad, bitter baby mamas. It's not like Shannon said, it's not to one or the other. Bitter baby mamas can be just as bad as toxic fathers, let me tell you. So let's just be better as a people, right? And as we always like to say, especially when the kids are watching.

Shannon (24:53)
Yes.

Shun (25:03)
And that's our wrap up for tonight.

Shannon (25:03)
Amen. All right. Love it. Okay, on to the next segment.

Shun (25:16)
All right, we've come to our Sweet Little Lie segment. Tonight's Sweet Little Lie comes from a sister who has a baby with the father of her other sister's children. She has never told her soul, not even the dad knows he's the father. It was a drunk night on a ride home from the guy, but she had been abstinent for almost a year when it happened. So she had no doubt who the father was. He was the only man she'd been with about a year span.

she just can't tell anyone out of fear that it would tear her family apart and People often say to the you know to her the child looks just like the other sisters children You know and the guy but you know that she has with the guy but she chalks it up to the fact that you know their cousins were sisters in reality though those children are sisters and brothers and the sad part of that is not only the child not knowing their father not knowing that you're actually growing up with your siblings that you think are your cousins and

And that's another one Shannon. I'm not touching but but what you got?

Shannon (26:21)
Yeah, I don't even know what to do with that. I I guess that's some... I know, I know, right, right. Yeah, yeah, I guess take it to your grave. I don't know.

Shun (26:24)
I'm happy we don't have to give advice on these. I'm happy these are just people getting it off their chest because what do you say to that, right?

That's it. Yeah, you know you you do the field fire forget I should have put take it to your grave talk about it Let it go. I should maybe next season we'll add we're have to add a segment to this job You know, we're learning as we go. So next season we might have to add because I that's a I can't touch that I got to put my mc hammer pants on I can't touch it. So That was a that's a heavy load to carry so if you have a sweet little lie that you want to get off your chest hit us up

Shannon (26:39)
Yeah, exactly. Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Ha

Shun (27:02)
This is your official invite you can hit us up at wifey and baby mama at gmail.com That's wifey and baby mama at gmail.com and we'll we'll get it on the air for you We can help you get off your chest and it's all on you, baby mama

Shannon (27:17)
Great, thank you. Now to the final segment of the night. It is our fictional family that we feel, fire, forget. And tonight I will talk about the James family from all of us. It's a sitcom actually based on Majeda and Will and their little blended family.

And I think I've talked about them before, you know, over the years, but the father and the mother who's played by Lisa Ray, had a child, Dwayne Martin played the father and they're separated or I'm sorry, I don't think they were ever married, but they had a child together and now he's about to marry someone else. So he has a fiance and

Lisa Rain, who's his baby's mama and his fiance. Her name is Tia, played by Elise Neal. They did not get along at first. And he was pretty much like, keep me out of it. You know, like, I guess most guys would, they get nervous. They're like, okay, if y'all don't get along, that's fine. But don't put me in the middle. Not understanding, dude, you are in the middle.

Shun (28:28)
Mm-hmm.

Absolutely.

Shannon (28:38)
So you can't just sit back and let these two women go at it and in one particular episode They were competing against each other to see who could throw the best birthday party for the child Now, of course, you know this TV sitcom because in real life If it were me, wouldn't care. I'm like girl knock yourself out if it were somebody maybe you Sean you be like, uh-uh you're my child you're not going to

I'm deciding what kind of birthday party my child's going to have. And so that was, yes, see, how did I know that? And so that's what he was just kind of like sitting back saying, ooh, let me stay out of this. So based off of this particular episode, now the series itself, you know, of course, as you know, the writing, as it gets better throughout the...

Shun (29:10)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Shannon (29:35)
the series and the various seasons of the show, things got better between the two women. But initially, this is how it started where he wanted to stay out of it. So because of that, I'm going to base my feel, fire, forget off of this first season of the show. And I'm going to say, I'm going to fire them for this because he should have been thinking of the child saying, okay, these women need to get along. So let me get in here and do what I can to make things happen.

Shun (29:56)
Okay.

and I'm going to absolutely not agree with you because Although baby daddy Helped us get along. I honestly think you and I could have still reached where we needed to go without him So sometimes you got to just warm it up because I don't know if you remember guests last week who said they Totally don't deal with the guy at all is they now they deal with each other You know what? I mean, but I get what you're saying as though he should have stepped in

Shannon (30:18)
yeah, yeah, yeah.

Shun (30:32)
But I want to keep them and just forget them. I want to forget them. I don't want to fire them though, because I still think had they been, if they want it to be women enough, they could have handled it. I still think so.

Shannon (30:36)
Okay, you're forget him.

All right. All right. There you have it. Thank you, Sean, for your input. And for those of you, if you have an opinion on any of these, feel free to let us know. Some of you do anyway. So we welcome your various opinions. And we want to thank you for listening, tuning in as you do every Thursday at 7.30.

We are so grateful for our audiences around the world, around the globe, and we look forward to next week. Until then.

Shun (31:20)
Love you all. Bye.