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Kisha (00:21.197)
you

Shun (00:41.473)
Hi, I'm Shun.

Shannon (00:43.528)
Hi, and I'm Shannon.

Shun (00:45.033)
And we're the host of Wifey and Baby Mama. Happy Thursday, family, and happy Thursday, Shannon.

Shannon (00:51.923)
Happy Thursday to you too.

Shun (00:54.197)
Welcome to episode 11 of Season 5 fam. As always, we thank you all for spending another Thursday with us. We have just four more episodes Shannon and it's over.

Kisha (00:58.513)
Okay.

Shannon (01:05.797)
Yes, four.

Shun (01:06.931)
So thank you guys. Thank you for hanging in there with us. they say all good things must come to an end But the great news is wifey and baby mama always come back And here to yeah, we always come back every season and here to join us with our good thing tonight We have the very talented mrs. Lakisha hall who is a certified pharmacy tech with over 24 years in pharmacy and we're gonna call her keisha tonight because That's what our family calls her and here wifey and baby mama. We all fam

Shannon (01:16.721)
That's right.

Kisha (01:26.735)
Okay.

Shun (01:35.933)
And the clerk we all fan And this all loves so welcome keisha it's not keisha's not only talented and quite beautiful shannon she's She's very easily a candidate to win on this topic, which is why I brought her in for us tonight Check your signals. i've never seen to have a problem putting someone in their place or getting them You know to where they need to be so I said, you know

Shannon (01:36.735)
Right.

Shannon (01:55.647)
All right.

Kisha (01:58.034)
Okay.

Shannon (02:00.436)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Shun (02:03.945)
I think we're gonna need Keisha for this. We're gonna need a heavy hitter. She's out there. I'll let her give all of her details and credentials, but Keisha, why don't you introduce yourself to the listeners?

Shannon (02:08.329)
Mm-hmm.

Kisha (02:14.155)
Well you introduced me I am Keisha certified technician of Vanna Pharmacy Tech for 24 years or more. I am single and I have five children I don't know what else to say.

Shun (02:31.297)
That is more than enough honey that means that you can attest to the topic we're gonna give out tonight We got five we even up in here birth for and was Inherited a beautiful son. So we five and five up in here tonight. All right Shannon. So Channy you got anything you want to say you want to beat the drums, you know, you like to yellow

Shannon (02:45.807)
All right.

Shannon (02:52.413)
just welcome. I want to say welcome to Keisha and I hope you enjoy the show. I appreciate the time you've taken to come join us tonight.

Kisha (03:00.33)
Thank you for your time.

Shun (03:03.435)
Thank you, you know as I as I sit back sometimes Shannon Alice cuz of course you listen to your own episodes, right? You want to hear what you had to say and I do say sometimes I talk too much So we have to make sure I get you in there a little bit. I be talking a lot So here we go audience tonight's topic is kind of a conclusion or a Rounding off if you will of two other topics. We've we've discussed this season contender

Shannon (03:10.143)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (03:16.447)
That's all right. That is all right.

Shun (03:31.019)
versus companion earlier on in the season and just last week, soul choices. So if you haven't listened to those, please go back and check them out. And if you have and you say, tonight's going to sound kind of familiar, it's because it all ties together. And we wanted to be sure to cover these topics in this season. So, you know, the next seasons we can move on and we're not backtracking, but we wanted to thoroughly get this, these topics from every angle by sharing our experiences and having guests with their own point of view share there. So we went deep.

Kisha (03:39.147)
you

Shun (04:00.383)
Because we want you listeners to understand that choosing your forever and finding your right now are two different things Okay, and we're trying to persuade you in which way to go with that. That's between you and the Lord We just want you to be real clear when it comes to what you're looking for when you're dating So you can be clear to the person you're entertaining more importantly You give off the right signals and they can bring the right energy back to you, especially if children are involved. So Keisha

Kisha (04:20.343)
Shun (04:28.213)
This is your first stop here on Wife and Baby Mama platform. So being that we are so cordial over here, we always let our guests get the first point. So you buckled up, girl?

Kisha (04:30.667)
Yeah, let's go.

Shun (04:39.527)
Okay Well as I stated our topic tonight is About signals and we're talking about cars or traffic signals. Okay, we're going to kind of discuss the signals single women are giving out here and keisha my question to you is Do you feel the way a woman presents herself is a determining factor and how a man treats her or categorizes her?

Shannon (04:40.266)
Hehehehehe

Kisha (04:54.379)
That is like some tiny, depending on that man and what he's looking for. Some men, they still treat women the way they learn how to treat women. No matter how they dress or how they present themselves. So I can't speak on that.

Shun (05:19.998)
Mmm!

Kisha (05:24.627)
what a man's going to do because of the way a woman is presenting herself. Because ultimately at the end of the day, the man is presenting himself most of the time as a representative of who he really is.

Shun (05:39.457)
Shannon we've had that conversation a lot of times on this show

Shannon (05:42.367)
Hehehehehe

Kisha (05:43.242)
That's what I see most of time when I meet someone. They portray themselves to be someone that they're not because they want to fill you out first. So, and see what you like and try to conform. I don't know if there's a difference. I'm not sure.

Shun (06:07.553)
What do you feel Shannon?

Shannon (06:09.129)
So, no, so, Keisha, you're saying you don't know if there's a one size fits all or that. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And that kind of makes sense. You know, when you look at some men, whether they're successful or, you know, your ordinary blue collar and they marry someone or or in long term relationships with say a stripper.

Kisha (06:14.665)
Right, that's what I'm saying. I don't know that.

Shannon (06:38.627)
You sometimes say, you know, you know, you wouldn't necessarily think that would be the type of woman they would go for, but they treat her with all types of respect or whatever. Then you have the guy that would treat her badly. You know, you have the man that would go for that type and she's totally mistreated and.

Kisha (06:47.689)
you

Shun (07:04.723)
and degrade it.

Shannon (07:05.725)
sometimes even degraded, abused and all of that. So that is an interesting thing to think about. It really just depends on the man and maybe not necessarily how the woman is presenting herself.

Shun (07:20.425)
Yeah, I didn't I'm gonna be honest with you. I loved having guests for this very reason That was not even a way I even thought about it. You know what I'm saying? That's not a way I even You know, that's not even where I put I put anything on it because I want to say this I absolutely always thought the manner of dressing and the type of woman was a absolute determining factor Until I grew up and became who I became because I will go right out of work from the DA's office full suit six and chills classy

Shannon (07:28.071)
Yeah, yeah, me either. Yeah.

Kisha (07:46.985)
All right.

Shun (07:49.729)
And if Luke come on, I'm going down to the floor in my suit. So you can't say because I'm well dressed that you know, oh she doesn't do this. It doesn't do that. Now I ain't gonna go out there and full on, you know, put on the striptease. it's the but me learning or knowing that manner of dance from being a Southern girl doesn't make me any less of a woman. You know what I mean? So I've never thought about the way she said it. Now it's also to a certain extent that

Shannon (07:57.236)
Ha ha ha.

Shannon (08:03.924)
Right.

Shannon (08:11.433)
Yeah.

Shun (08:17.631)
You know if you don't care what a person think right? So being what I just said suit tie you can also dress sexy if you feel like it is still People are still gonna classify you just like you just said Shannon the way they're gonna classify you But for the most part what I'm saying is you don't have to be covered from eyes down to your toe You know for people to be like, that's a good woman But Shannon, I'm gonna go ahead and tell you something's not so popular I'm a Christian a mother of five and you know and a wife

Shannon (08:29.983)
Mm-hmm, right.

Kisha (08:37.385)
Sure.

Shun (08:45.493)
But sometimes, baby, I like to show my legs. OK, I think that's my best feature. I ain't at the weight that I would, you know, desire right now. But my legs are still intact and my husband don't mind. So I really don't care what anyone else thinks about it. You know what I mean? So I guess it's all balance, just like anything else we talk about.

Kisha (08:49.737)
Thank

Shannon (09:03.783)
Right. Yeah. Okay. But what.

Kisha (09:05.274)
It is... it is... it is a... Go ahead.

Shannon (09:09.532)
No, go ahead, Kisa.

Kisha (09:10.248)
I just felt like it is, it's all about, to me, and what I've noticed is how a man saw their father or someone before them treat a woman. And that's how they portray the way they should treat a woman or the things they've gone through when it comes to relationships. So a man has been hurt several times by a woman. He's going to treat women a certain kind of way.

That's why we got so many men and women that don't like each other.

Shun (09:45.194)
Facts it's a it's a big fact. That's a big faction

Kisha (09:45.265)
Yeah.

Shannon (09:49.694)
Yeah, it is. It is. And then you also have the men that, you know, they're, of course, turned on and attracted to that woman that looks that certain way. You know, that's, you know, has all that sex appeal. But once they get her, what do they tend to do? They want to cover up.

Kisha (10:09.492)
Right. They don't want nobody else looking at her.

Shun (10:09.865)
Mm-hmm. It's a fact.

Shannon (10:14.431)
Right, right.

Shun (10:15.201)
In fact, that's how you met her. So that's going to create a problem no matter how you look at it because now you're trying to change her from something that she was when in fact if that's not the way you want your woman to be presented in public, maybe you shouldn't even approach her because that's how you met her in public, you know, and it was all right with her and it was all right with you then.

Shannon (10:29.172)
Right.

Yep.

Shannon (10:35.859)
Yeah, yeah.

Shun (10:35.969)
Even goes for going to a club Shannon, you know how some men or get a woman to be like Oh now you want me to become a homebody But you met me outside and I'm not saying should stay outside because that actually happened with me I still love to be outside and I'm old now. I'm not going outside. Okay, People change but don't force me don't force me to do that. You know what I mean because you met me outside So I don't like that either I'm gonna go ahead Shannon. You're gonna say something

Shannon (10:43.24)
Right.

Kisha (10:50.587)
Hehehehehe

Shannon (10:50.783)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, but when, you know, single women are out there, you know, trying to, you know, form these relationships, being true to yourself is good. You know, we definitely want people to be real and be who they are, but also know that depending on what you're looking for or what you're trying to attract, there are certain people that

You're not really gonna get if you're a certain way meaning it could be either way You could be buttoned down and you know, you're totally classy and all that but the guy you're trying to go after is you know that guy who's out there, know who is looking for that that sexy chick Yeah, and vice versa the guy that wants to classy chick and you're not that not saying you're not classy every woman's classy, but the way you

Shun (11:32.209)
That's true. That's true.

Shannon (11:56.884)
presenting yourself might be a little bit more sexier than he would like. You might not get that person. And I don't want women to down, you know, think bad about themselves. Don't think you have to completely change who you are to get with whoever you're trying to get with. Just make sure you're going for the person that really talks to your soul, really meets

Shun (12:06.004)
and

Shannon (12:26.151)
makes you where you are.

Shun (12:28.001)
That's right. And I'm going to tell you it doesn't even have to be button down or classy. I was a whole tomboy out here. I remember when I met my, baby, I love me. I was a tomboy. I remember this one guy asked me, you got any shoes on? You wear sneakers? And then I got a sneakers that got into my high heels. And by the time I was on my second husband, he said we were going to dinner. Shannon, we could go to the 7-Eleven. I'll get them on the phone right now. I'm throwing on my high heels, baby. Cause once I got used to them, I liked them. That was it. Sneakers out the window.

Shannon (12:35.036)
yeah.

Shun (12:56.511)
He said you have any regular shoes like we you wear here. We're going to the 7-eleven So it just depends on the person And that didn't say either way it didn't say about who I was if I had on the sneaker the tennis shoe Whatever you call it or the high heel or the stiletto or flip-flop. That's just a move that I'm in It doesn't person that I am, know what I mean? So

Shannon (13:02.033)
Right.

Kisha (13:16.219)
And it doesn't change your sex scene either because sexy is a state of mind. It doesn't change your sex scene either because sexy is a state of mind. It is a state of mind. So that's why somebody's going to try to talk to you with your sneakers on and me as well with tins on. And that's how I used to dress too. So I was a brown boy as well. So I didn't have a problem getting a man. So and it not necessarily was the right man, but.

Shannon (13:17.127)
Right.

Shun (13:19.689)
Huh? Absolutely. Trust me.

Shannon (13:22.031)
yeah.

Shannon (13:25.951)
Mm-hmm.

Kisha (13:45.457)
It was no problem. It doesn't. It just doesn't.

Shun (13:46.219)
We got him here.

Shun (13:52.693)
But shannon to speak back to what you said We need to be looking for people or we're hoping to attract people that talk to our souls anyways and not our wardrobes Okay

Shannon (14:02.24)
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.

Kisha (14:02.567)
Right. Right.

Shun (14:07.379)
Now ladies, can I jump a little bit and go a little deeper, you know, and a little bit past the clothes and what you know, Let me get it. Let me get my right my words, right and what we really want women to take from this topic You know, like I said, it's not all about wardrobe or keisha. Like you just said sexiness It that's a sexiness is a state of mind. It's About what we're doing and interacting with men and saying later on

So I want to talk about this video. So I was trying to get away to ease it in here this video on social media where this guy was upset because the lady had been dealing Lady he'd been dealing with for a couple of months She went on on social media and put him on blast called him a lowlife a cheapskate, know a few other names I'll leave out because as you know, it's a child-friendly show but Because he wouldn't help her pay a bill after sleeping with her for a couple of months of meeting him He went on to but but listen he went on to say that she said

Shannon (14:54.079)
You

Shannon (15:00.444)
my God.

Shun (15:04.861)
I gave you my body. is quote. This is our exact quote from him I gave you my body and I expected something in return end quote He said I gave her the same thing she gave me and y'all can read between the lines We all grown and again and not so popular opinion latest I had to agree with the man 100 % What are you giving me? That makes me want to pay your bills because in his mind my body is just as precious as yours So I'm giving you what you gave me

Shannon (15:33.285)
Right. Yeah.

Kisha (15:34.567)
Right. I agree. You got to have an understanding. If that's what you want, say that. If, if... Right. That's what it is. That's what it is. Tell me what you want. If you don't tell me, I'd even have sex. I'm giving you what I thought you wanted.

Shun (15:34.677)
So what do you ladies think about that?

Shun (15:42.529)
If it's longevity and partnership say that you're right. Keisha that's a total different thing

Shannon (15:49.904)
Mm-hmm, right.

Shun (15:55.681)
And I think that should be discussed before he you give him your most prized

Shannon (15:56.573)
Yeah.

Kisha (16:01.068)
All right.

Shannon (16:03.668)
Right, Yeah. yeah. I'm, I'm. Yeah, that's one thing I've never really understood and with a lot of women who feel like, because I'm sleeping with him, he needs to pay for something, you know, that we're not in a relationship. He's not my man. He's nothing but someone I'm just kicking it with.

Shun (16:05.343)
What do you think Shannon? was the sake of money.

Shannon (16:31.027)
But I want him to pay my bills. never understood that concept, but maybe I'm old.

Kisha (16:38.169)
And I think they see, that's from old days when grandma had that man at the house every day going to work and coming home and paying her bills. That was her husband. It's not your husband. It's not your man. You owe you anything.

Shannon (16:51.551)
Yes, exactly. Right. Right.

Shun (16:53.91)
That's right.

Shun (16:58.357)
That's a fact and again, that's some things that should be discussed before the physical part actually takes place. You know what I'm saying?

Shannon (16:59.124)
Yeah.

Kisha (17:05.314)
All

Shannon (17:07.743)
But how do you discuss that, Hey, before we get together and just know you're gonna be paying my electric bill.

Kisha (17:10.02)
you

Shun (17:14.345)
No, ma'am sex for money is another topic that ain't called She was confused Anna, how do you feel about the Sex for money, baby is a whole nother conversation. That's a different title. Okay, so What you do is you date and you walk into that you date and you hey Last week we had a guest who said when you meet a man X questions. She said at least 200

Kisha (17:19.128)
That's That's right.

Kisha (17:30.308)
Thank

Shannon (17:37.297)
Okay.

Shun (17:44.083)
Now that might be a bit too many right off like she said but at least get to the point of knowing what are we in this? What are we doing? You don't you don't go immediately to having sex with a man to saying now I want you to pay my bills. I want you to be my no That's not how it goes. So that's why we're checking signals. That's the importance of this topic tonight If you deal with a man long enough, keisha If you can agree you both of you listen to me if you if you date if you meet a guy

Shannon (17:52.275)
Yeah.

Shannon (17:59.261)
you

Kisha (17:59.876)
Right.

Shun (18:10.867)
If you talk to that man for more than 30 minutes, you can already tell me about you ain't got to ask him

Kisha (18:16.6)
You can see. If you paying attention.

Shannon (18:17.598)
Right.

Shun (18:18.421)
You can see if you pay if you're in tune with yourself and let's get this straight If you're living a queen life if you are here living a queen a whole because when I wasn't a wife I was a wife. I was always prepared to be one So if you listen you can tell And I can tell you right now how many men that didn't get a second conversation a phone call from me They first 30 minutes told me all I needed to know seriously because if you are really a woman if you're really a woman and in tune with yourself You ain't putting up with no mess anyways

Kisha (18:21.508)
That's right.

Shannon (18:34.217)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (18:47.979)
But if you are here just to get what they're giving, then get what they're giving. But don't mix the signals, don't cross them.

Shannon (18:48.969)
Right.

Shannon (18:57.503)
Right. And one thing I'm going to switch it a little bit to being in corporate America. I know a lot of us women in corporate, some of us dress a certain way. Some dress, like you said, Shun, in your suit and you're buttoned up and all that. But then others, I don't know in your line of work, but in mine, some come in, their chest all out or whatever, the cleavage showing.

Shun (19:25.505)
you

Shannon (19:26.365)
And then they wonder why they don't get the respect from their male counterparts. And they say, you know, I've, I've actually had one of my friends actually go off on me and said, you know, it's a double standard and they shouldn't be looking at my chest anyway. I don't care if I have it out. I'm just as smart as they are. I'm this and that or whatever, but that's the world we live in. mean, you can't really change that. So how you present yourself and the signals that you're giving off at work.

to your male counterparts, that can sometimes hurt your career. And I've seen it happen in so many cases. whether you're trying to date or you're trying to climb the corporate ladder, unfortunately for women, it is a double standard. So what do you do about that?

Shun (20:16.193)
Well, my chest out. I wear it out some days. I'm gonna tell you why. Because I went to school, baby. I got my education and I like my chest too. So baby, I'm gonna let it all hang out. And I'm gonna tell you something. They ain't gonna be disrespectful, of course, because I'm a married woman. But even when I wasn't married, it's been plenty of years of my life that I was single in corporate America. It's out, baby. It is what it is. Because you're not gonna judge me. You're not gonna tame me. And I'm very confident in my skin. And you're not gonna shame me.

Shannon (20:18.313)
Hahaha!

Kisha (20:18.884)
you

you

Shannon (20:31.539)
Alright.

Shun (20:45.075)
Address a certain way to attract a certain person because again shana i've always been in tune with this I'm gonna attract what god has for me and I can tell when it's not And when that promotion is time to come for me god gonna give me that too in my chest my blouse being buttoned a button down One down too many isn't gonna stop me from getting it if it's for me. That's just how I look at it. What about you?

Kisha (21:08.366)
Well, I understand what she's saying as far as the women having an issue with it. Because men are very visual. They are. And they are looking and they're lusting and they... I get that part. But I'm with Shun on this because my scrubs, they may look tight to people. I have, I got big things, you know what I'm saying? So...

Shannon (21:21.065)
Hmm.

Shun (21:32.897)
and

Shannon (21:37.084)
You

Kisha (21:38.244)
You know what mean? Everything looks like, oh my God, you got that on you? I do. Yes I do. If it's not, if it's not, it goes against the code, then I won't wear it. But I'm gonna wear what I want to And you feel how you're gonna feel. And I think people feel a certain way because I have big parts. You know what I mean? So, they don't wanna say it to the skinny girl. You know what I mean? So it's like, leave me alone. But yes, I do about-

Shannon (21:45.927)
Yeah.

Shannon (21:52.692)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Shun (21:58.881)
You

Shun (22:05.697)
It's a fact.

Shannon (22:06.015)
Mm-hmm.

Kisha (22:07.524)
ladies. it was a double standard but like Shun said I'm gonna wear what I want to wear and I know that I attract what it is that I need for me. yeah whether it's good or bad it's for me. I gotta learn something from it.

Shannon (22:10.54)
Yeah.

Shannon (22:22.054)
That's it.

Shannon (22:28.073)
Mm-hmm.

Shun (22:30.017)
I'm just saying y'all know me. I'm a hopeless romantic, you know, I like all that fairytale love But that doesn't happen a whole lot in real life Shannon So I get what you're saying too for the most part, you know If you if you want to meet people you don't really want to meet men in the clubs and bars But you know if you meet them in the church, it doesn't matter but sleeping with them on Sleeping with people on first date kind of since it sends out the wrong signal, you know, and then like

Shannon (22:45.663)
yeah, right.

Shun (22:54.843)
If you are looking for a husband that that's not really gonna look too good But if you're looking for your good time, hey do what you do But you what's important for us what we're trying to get out here What's important for us to know from us to you all is you have to check your signal You can't send out dog signals and respect prince charming That's that's that's just it and a lot of times like you should say They're going to look at you like they look at you regardless because of their past experiences

Shannon (23:15.485)
Right. That's right.

Shun (23:23.723)
how they saw their mother live their father or how the past ex-dogged them. We really have no, it's no perfect answer or equation to this, just like every topic that we do. But it is up to us, Shannon and Keisha, it is up to us what we put out and that's all we can control.

Shannon (23:38.527)
Mm-hmm, that's right.

Shun (23:42.315)
You know, again, we're not professional relationship doctors. So, you know, I wouldn't be on marriage number three if I had all the answers. Okay. But I would be inclined to say Shannon that we've experienced enough foolishness to save somebody else from some of our mistakes. And that's why we show up here season after season. And we bring on these lovely guests who, who can also counter or agree with our opinions because it's just, it's more to us in this world going through these things.

Shannon (23:47.391)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (23:51.738)
Right, right.

Shannon (24:00.5)
Mm-hmm. Right. Right.

Shun (24:10.431)
And we try to get every opinion that we can. So that's all I had to offer on the topic today. Do either of you ladies have anything you want to say?

Shannon (24:10.931)
Mm-hmm.

Kisha (24:19.843)
Basically, for me, I just need everybody to know who they are and be that person to the fullest. That's it. That's all you can do. Pay attention to the signs and don't read flags and know who you are.

Shannon (24:28.393)
Right. Yeah.

Shun (24:29.812)
Absolutely.

Shannon (24:35.443)
Mm hmm. Yeah. Love it.

Shun (24:40.257)
All right, Shane, got anything else you want to add to the topic before we wrap up?

Shannon (24:44.829)
No, let's wrap it up.

Shun (24:46.931)
All right, we'll wrap up to next topic. Check your signal with this. Single ladies, if you're looking for a good time and not a long time, say that. However, if you want to be the girl he takes home to his family, don't go out in public and do things to make a man think you are for everybody. My mama used to say, no man wants a woman that just anybody can have and vice versa.

Shannon (24:56.959)
Mm-hmm.

Shannon (25:10.963)
Bye.

I love it. All right. Great wrap up. Here we go now to the sound DAW.

Shun (25:28.289)
So we've come to our sound off segment for tonight. This is where we announced a song related to the topic of tonight. While also hoping to add to your musical playlist. We use songs from all categories and genres and tonight's song is by Ella Langley, Girl You're Takin' Home. That's another country favorite of mine and I'm positive you'll like it too. So when we get out the show, go ahead and pop it on. It's Ella Langley, Girl You're Takin' Home. Suits and fits tonight's topic perfectly.

And Shannon, tell them if they want to send us a suggestion or get in on this Goodman's for our segments, where can they send suggestions or comments to?

Shannon (26:07.455)
Alright, you can send those to wifeyandbabymama.gmail.com. Once again, wifeyandbabymama.gmail.com. We welcome any song suggestions, any feedback. We take it to heart and we pay attention and we respond.

Shun (26:29.077)
We sure do. Thank you so much, Keisha, for joining us tonight. We hope you had fun.

Kisha (26:35.887)
it.

Shannon (26:36.703)
All right. Yes. Thank you, Keisha. Come back anytime. All right. Until next week.

Kisha (26:42.847)
I will.

Shun (26:44.673)
Thank

We love you all. Bye.