Auntie Mama
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Hey, I'm Sean.
Shannon:
and I'm Shannon.
Shun:
and we're the host of Wifey and Baby Mama. I'm excited about tonight's episode. Well, a little more excited than usual. I mean, we're always happy to connect with our peeps, but tonight we have our first guest joining us, yes.
Shannon:
Yes? Yes.
Shun:
We are women of our word. We told you, Ray, why don't you introduce yourself to the listeners?
Rashawn:
Hi, my name is Rae Shawn. I'm a very close friend of Shawn's and I'm so happy to be on the podcast and invited today. Thank you, Shawn and Shannon. I appreciate it.
Shannon:
Welcome welcome
Shun:
Shannon, how exciting is to have our first gift?
Shannon:
Oh, I've been looking forward to this. I'm so excited.
Shun:
Um, right. Shannon and I thought bringing on a guest like Ray and others to give, you know, their stories and their own view of upcoming topics is necessary to add another element. Now, of course we can't promise a guest for every show. Not yet. Anyways, I told you all how I went last week, asking my brother to come on for the uncle daddy episode. It was a hard no, but,
Shannon:
Hehehehe
Shun:
but we've got to try as much as possible to give, you know, to get different opinions and experiences outside of our own. as we aim to take the podcast to higher heights. So Ray, thank you for answering the call and thank you to all of our listeners who are back with us this week for our episode titled, Auntie Mama. Just like an uncle daddy, Auntie Mama is the aunt who steps in and steps up and either take on or double in the role of mom, you know, when it comes to their nieces and nephews. And of course, as we discussed, women have, you know, did an awesome job raising boys. But we can't teach them how to be men, you know, that would also apply in this
Shannon:
Right.
Shun:
case as I know, you know I know plenty of married men, you know who are great girl dad, you know, so we know we can all do it but Auntie mama's you know, they're necessary, you know
Shannon:
Yeah,
Rashawn:
Mm-hmm.
Shannon:
yeah. And for all of us who had our mother in our lives, we also needed that extra mother figure.
Shun:
Absolutely.
Shannon:
It's always good to have what I call every slice of the pie,
Shun:
That's
Shannon:
as
Shun:
right.
Shannon:
many pieces as you can get. And my father's sister was my mother figure, my Aunt Pauline. Or still is I shouldn't say was she still is
Shun:
There it
Shannon:
I'm
Shun:
is.
Shannon:
sorry Yes Love her to pieces and she's always been that you know auntie mama for me
Shun:
And I know what you meant when you said was because as a little girl, you know, we need that cushion
Shannon:
Yes,
Shun:
more
Shannon:
yes,
Shun:
than when we're grown,
Shannon:
yes.
Shun:
you know? And like I said, I know plenty of, of girl dads, you know, my husband was a girl dad for years and we only had the three daughters in the house and he handled it, you know, hands down barely needing to call me, you know, he just dealt with it in that mode, but I know he was overjoyed when Frank came along, you know, with the
Shannon:
Hehehehe
Shun:
oldest son being gone, you know, and live in another state, he was outnumbered girl and
Shannon:
Mm-hmm.
Shun:
bogged down,
Shannon:
All
Shun:
but no, how mad, no
Shannon:
right.
Shun:
matter how good, no matter. of that is, you know, to them girls need their mom to teach them the etiquette
Shannon:
and...
Shun:
of being a lady, you know, to talk to about their first time having administration. Boys, you know, any sensitive issue, you know, to feel they always feel comfortable with a woman being on the other side of that conversation, but not always their mom. You know what I mean? So
Shannon:
Right.
Rashawn:
My head.
Shun:
that's why the Auntie Mamas are so important.
Rashawn:
Yes.
Shannon:
Yeah, I remember even when
Rashawn:
Thank you.
Shannon:
me and my oldest sister needed that, you know, birds and the bees talk, we didn't get it from my mother. We
Shun:
That's
Shannon:
got
Shun:
it.
Shannon:
it from another slice of our pie, which was my mother's best friend, who was like another, you know, mom
Shun:
Auntie
Shannon:
to us.
Shun:
Mama.
Shannon:
Yeah, she was the one that gave us the talk. And you know, and I will never forget that. and
Shun:
You
Shannon:
we appreciate
Shun:
say the birds
Shannon:
it
Shun:
and
Shannon:
to
Shun:
the bees?
Shannon:
this day. Yeah.
Rashawn:
Oh
Shannon:
Oh,
Shun:
So,
Shannon:
the talk.
Shun:
yeah, the talk. So
Rashawn:
Mm-hmm.
Shun:
our guest, Ray, is Auntie Mama to my second daughter, which is her niece on her son's side of the family. I mean, Ray was very instrumental in helping me raise my daughter when her father and I were having moments, and there were many.
Rashawn:
Hehehehehe
Shun:
Or just when my daughter wasn't comfortable, you know, telling me certain things, Auntie Ray was there. And Ray, I'm sure you doubled in that role a lot for, you know, all of your family, having that sweet. Welcome in spirit of yours. So tell the listeners a little bit about how this title more appropriately appra applies to you.
Rashawn:
Absolutely. So, Johnny, you know, that's my baby right there.
Shun:
I'm sorry.
Rashawn:
She used to stick to me like glue. Like everywhere I went, she was coming. It was just no ifs, ands, or buts about it. That was my baby right there. That's my little light bright. And throughout like my whole like adulthood, for some reason kids always gravitated to me. Rather was the neighborhood kids or my nieces and nephews. My kids on the other hand, they just want to leave. They be like, I want to come over your
Shannon:
Ha
Rashawn:
house.
Shannon:
ha
Rashawn:
They feel like, why?
Shannon:
ha.
Rashawn:
I'm trying to get out of this lady house.
Shannon:
I'm sorry.
Rashawn:
Y'all want to come
Shun:
Thank
Rashawn:
over here?
Shun:
you.
Rashawn:
But it was like, I, it was no hoes. Like I was, I discipline them. You know, I teach them, I listen to them. I love on them. You know what I mean? But like I said, at the same time, they also get disciplined because you not go just do what you want to do at Auntie Ray house. But at the same thing, they loved it. They, they was coming back every weekend. They didn't care. They will come back every day. If you know, if it was prohibited, like, okay, yeah, I'm going. And parents did not care. Y'all want to go around and answer that? Go ahead, go, bye. You know what I mean? But it was just so, I loved it. I just loved the atmosphere, having all the kids there and watching them play or, you know, just being kids. And it just did something to me and it just caught on. Like if I was in a relationship, somehow their family kids... gave me the label of Auntie Ray. My name is literally Auntie Ray
Shannon:
Yeah.
Rashawn:
when I go to different neighborhoods. Like,
Shun:
Auntie
Rashawn:
um,
Shun:
Ray mama
Rashawn:
yep,
Shannon:
Ha ha
Rashawn:
Auntie Ray mama.
Shannon:
ha.
Shun:
or auntie mama ray
Rashawn:
Auntie
Shannon:
Yeah.
Rashawn:
mama, yep. And it was just like, it was uplifting. Like, I'll be in a grocery store and I'll hear a kid go, Auntie Ray.
Shannon:
Hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm
Rashawn:
I know it's either my niece, nephew or her neighborhood kid. And they just run up to me and they hug me and it's just no better joy.
Shun:
And that's
Shannon:
Sto-ray!
Shun:
what I thought about you. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Chan.
Shannon:
Oh no, I was just gonna ask Ray, so where do you think that comes from in you? You know, if you think back.
Rashawn:
You know, because that's how I always wanted, you know, growing up. Like my childhood wasn't like a normal childhood. Like, you know, at an early age, I lost my mother twice. You know, I lost her to jail and then I lost she came home and then she died. So it was like
Shun:
Wow.
Rashawn:
I didn't I didn't just lose
Shannon:
Wow.
Rashawn:
her once. I lost her twice. So I was raised by aunts and, you know, and it was just like. You know, I didn't have that one aunt to just give me everything I needed. It was like, aunt here, aunt there, aunt there.
Shannon:
Okay.
Rashawn:
So when I have it all in one package, the nurturing, the teacher, the nurse, the scolding parent, you know, it's just like
Shannon:
Mm-hmm.
Rashawn:
everything all in one that a child don't have to like... And it's not to take the place of a mom. Don't get me wrong.
Shun:
Absolutely.
Shannon:
Right,
Rashawn:
Because
Shun:
That's
Rashawn:
you
Shannon:
right.
Rashawn:
can
Shun:
what we
Rashawn:
never
Shun:
discussed
Rashawn:
take
Shun:
last
Rashawn:
the
Shun:
week
Rashawn:
place
Shun:
with the
Rashawn:
of a
Shun:
uncle
Rashawn:
mom.
Shun:
daddy.
Rashawn:
Yeah,
Shun:
Yeah, that
Rashawn:
you
Shun:
doesn't
Rashawn:
can
Shun:
mean
Rashawn:
never ride. But it's just like almost like a substitute teacher. You know what
Shannon:
Okay. Yeah.
Rashawn:
I mean? She's there when needed or he's there when needed, when they don't feel comfortable maybe talking to the parent or the parent maybe don't understand. You always, as a kid, you feel
Shannon:
Mm-hmm.
Rashawn:
comfortable talking to somebody else other than your parent with some things.
Shun:
with
Rashawn:
Or
Shannon:
That's
Shun:
some
Rashawn:
you
Shun:
subjects.
Shannon:
true.
Rashawn:
know. Yeah, right. And it's just that they chose me and I accepted. You know what I mean? And it was like, some things, like I just want y'all to know, if it get too much in detail, listen, I gotta tell your parents, like I can't just keep it. You know what I mean?
Shun:
I'm
Rashawn:
And they understood
Shun:
so
Rashawn:
that.
Shun:
happy you brought that up right. That's a point that I wanted to get to and I didn't want to interrupt you but then you brought it out so thank God I didn't.
Shannon:
Hehehe
Rashawn:
Mm-hmm.
Shun:
The importance of uncle daddies and auntie mamas in this case is you should be a buffer for the child. But I want to ask both you ladies what's your opinion on if the child says you know I'm going to run away tonight or I plan on committing suicide or I'm pregnant and I'm not going to tell my mom it was too late because I don't want to have an abortion. Or I'm going to have an abortion and I'm telling my mother where is crossing the trust line? And you know what I'm saying? Can one of you ladies help me out with that because this is one of the things that came up as I was I'm pondering this Show like I wonder
Rashawn:
Mm-hmm.
Shun:
how far it's too far. You know what I mean? Or what do you disclose like it's good to have a kid's trust
Rashawn:
Mm-hmm.
Shun:
But are you being a good auntie mama if you're holding something like that?
Shannon:
Yeah, I would look at it as if it's something I would want to know and
Shun:
There
Shannon:
everything
Shun:
you go.
Shannon:
you mentioned, everything you
Rashawn:
I'm going to go ahead and turn this off.
Shannon:
rattled off, I would want to know those things. So I would definitely share that.
Shun:
And
Shannon:
You
Shun:
of
Shannon:
know.
Shun:
course, you know, it's go ahead. I'm sorry.
Shannon:
No, no, that's all.
Shun:
It was I'm saying it's exceptions in that like you said as moms would want to know right? But what if I wasn't a good mother? What if my mother was? Letting my uncles
Shannon:
Hmm.
Shun:
touch me. What if my mother was on drugs and now i'm pregnant You know what? I mean, I think it's exceptions to every rule
Rashawn:
It is.
Shun:
But at the same time I think I want to get you ladies opinion, but to me but depending on what kind of mom are you being to that child?
Rashawn:
Mm-hmm.
Shun:
Because like ray said you don't always not have to have a mom or I think you said it shannon. I'm sorry We
Shannon:
Yeah.
Shun:
both had moms and you had a mom in your life, but you still went to your aunt. My mom was crazy It's all white on rice, but
Rashawn:
No.
Shun:
she was good to talk to
Shannon:
I'm
Shun:
I
Shannon:
sorry.
Shun:
mean the birds and the bees I got from her the streets I got from her She had her good points. You know what i'm saying? And she taught me
Shannon:
Mm-hmm.
Shun:
I said this in my book She taught me things. I guarantee you a classroom couldn't have taught me So it
Rashawn:
Mm-hmm.
Shun:
was good to have my mom but certain things I'm not telling my mother because a she about to tell the whole world
Shannon:
I'm going
Shun:
Or
Shannon:
to go
Shun:
b
Shannon:
to
Shun:
is
Shannon:
bed.
Shun:
like she with it and it's not something that a kid should have to experience So it's
Shannon:
Yeah.
Shun:
good to have buffers, but I think it depends on you know If a child comes from a good Christian home, like you said ray and they just want a book Then I think at that point you're like no, baby. You can't bring that to me. Don't burden me with that You know what? I mean, I think
Rashawn:
Mm-hmm.
Shun:
you should tell the child and give them the option you tell your mom Or i'm gonna have to tell your mom
Rashawn:
Yep, I've been in that situation. Yes, yes, yes.
Shun:
I mean,
Shannon:
How did
Shun:
can
Shannon:
that
Shun:
you explain
Shannon:
go?
Shun:
elaborate without using names? Yeah,
Shannon:
Yeah.
Shun:
I want to know too. Shannon, we know it's like, what happened?
Rashawn:
Okay. So one of my nieces came to me one day and told me that she was pregnant. And she was scared to tell her mom because she thought that her mom was, you know, going to be real aggressive with her and like beat her down basically. And or, you know, send her off. So I was, she was begged me not to tell. But it's like, how could you not tell? You're not gonna just walk through life without being noticed that you're pregnant. You know, like
Shun:
All right.
Rashawn:
you're 14. You know what I mean? So it's like, I'm gonna have to draw the line. I told her, what I told her was, I'll talk to your mom, you stay here and let me go talk to your mom. We gonna come to an agreement and then we can decide what's gonna go from here. How are we gonna go from here? And I had to talk to her for hours before. She kind of like was okay
Shun:
Agreed.
Rashawn:
and felt comfortable.
Shannon:
Okay.
Rashawn:
Right. And I asked her, do you trust me? Cause you have to trust me if you came to me with this. You know what I mean? So trust me when I tell you, I'm gonna talk to your mom and we gonna get this straightened out, okay? So I did, I ended up talking to her mom. Her mom was livid, but I told her, I said, see, that's why she didn't want to come to you in the first place. So if you want her to come to you with things like this. You got to take a different approach. And I understand it's hard when you have a 14 year old daughter coming to you and she tell you, I done made a mistake. And I, you know, cause now you feel like you're a kid. You just put this burden on me. Cause you can't take care of it.
Shannon:
Right.
Rashawn:
You know what I mean? So we ended up having that conversation with her and let her under, you know, she understood and the, they ended up going, you know, so she never even had the next time she got pregnant, she was 18. But. At that moment, it was just like a reality check for her
Shannon:
Mm-hmm.
Rashawn:
and for the mom. And then the mom realized, I gotta tone it down a little bit if I want my daughter to come to me with certain things. Because she was scared to, that's, you know, she was like, I couldn't come to my mom until I was, you know, I was feeling
Shannon:
Right.
Rashawn:
boys and I wanted to know about the birds and the bees and, you know, guys out there, oh, you're beautiful, you this, you that, you this. And she just, you know, fell for the okey-doke and now boom. Because she was scared to talk about it with her mom. You know what I mean? She
Shun:
So
Rashawn:
came
Shun:
she
Rashawn:
to
Shun:
let
Rashawn:
me when it was too
Shun:
the
Rashawn:
late.
Shun:
boys get in their ears.
Rashawn:
Yep.
Shun:
And I try
Rashawn:
So,
Shun:
to
Shannon:
Yeah.
Shun:
tell
Rashawn:
you
Shun:
my
Rashawn:
know.
Shun:
daughters that all the time. If you can't tell me, if it's that bad, please tell someone, you know, please.
Shannon:
Yeah,
Rashawn:
Mm-hmm.
Shannon:
yeah.
Rashawn:
And when she told me, she wasn't scared. She was more embarrassed. She was like,
Shannon:
Um...
Rashawn:
you know, Auntie, you know, it took me a minute because I was embarrassed. Her mom, she was scared of. Me, she was more
Shannon:
Okay.
Rashawn:
embarrassed. It was almost like she felt like she was a
Shun:
She's
Rashawn:
letdown
Shun:
letting you
Rashawn:
to
Shun:
down.
Rashawn:
me.
Shun:
Mm-hmm.
Rashawn:
Yeah. And she kind of did let me down because I, you know, I tell all my girls, you know, give them the straight talk or what have you, and things happen. You know what I mean? But
Shun:
That's right.
Rashawn:
I'm
Shun:
Oh,
Rashawn:
glad
Shun:
we know
Rashawn:
she...
Shun:
all about it. That's why we're here.
Shannon:
Yeah,
Shun:
Things
Rashawn:
Right.
Shun:
definitely happen.
Shannon:
exactly.
Rashawn:
You know? But stuff like that I can't keep from their parent because what kind of aunt would I be?
Shannon:
Yeah.
Rashawn:
You know, I
Shun:
That's
Rashawn:
can't
Shun:
right.
Rashawn:
harbor that type of information. You know, even the runaway, the little cousin, she running away to my house. Uh-uh.
Shannon:
Yeah.
Rashawn:
No, babe, we can't do that. But let me talk to you and let me see where the issue lies of why you're running away. So it was always like I was the... the mediator almost and you know talking to the mom and talking to the kid and you know and that's why parents you know they don't mind they blow okay yeah go with Auntie Ray you know what I mean it's fine because I
Shun:
because
Rashawn:
know
Shun:
they feel like their kids are protected and safe with you.
Rashawn:
Yep.
Shannon:
Right.
Rashawn:
And if they know if anything else above anything, I'm gonna let them know. It's
Shannon:
Yeah.
Rashawn:
not
Shun:
That's
Rashawn:
going to
Shun:
right.
Rashawn:
be a Harvard secret where it's, Oh, she came here and she said, you know, she was pregnant. And now it's eight months later. She's telling me you knew about it all this time. You know what I mean? Or
Shannon:
Right.
Rashawn:
she said she was running away. And now she and then hitchhiked to West Virginia with Peter. And now, you
Shun:
I'm
Rashawn:
know what
Shun:
going
Rashawn:
I mean? But
Shun:
to go.
Rashawn:
you knew all
Shannon:
Yeah,
Rashawn:
this time.
Shannon:
yeah,
Rashawn:
that she
Shannon:
yeah.
Rashawn:
was running away. You know, anything happen to these kids, I will feel responsible.
Shannon:
Right,
Rashawn:
So I
Shannon:
right.
Rashawn:
have
Shun:
I want
Rashawn:
to
Shun:
to
Rashawn:
let the parent know.
Shun:
Right and I want to ask you ladies have you guys I've seen the best man the series the end of it When they did the
Rashawn:
No!
Shun:
like many episodes
Rashawn:
Mm-mm.
Shun:
have you seen that Shannon?
Rashawn:
No!
Shun:
Okay.
Shannon:
No, no I haven't.
Shun:
All right. Well y'all gonna miss out but I'm gonna tell it cuz I hope the people saw it so they can know what I'm referring to but it's an auntie mama story and um
Shannon:
I'm going to go ahead and close the video.
Shun:
Actually been good for a fictional family, but that's not my segment. So anyways
Shannon:
Hehehehehehe
Shun:
We gonna jump the gun. So Shannon if you don't got one I can
Shannon:
Yeah,
Shun:
save it for
Shannon:
go
Shun:
you.
Shannon:
ahead.
Shun:
I can run
Shannon:
Oh,
Shun:
it
Shannon:
yeah.
Shun:
tonight And
Shannon:
No,
Shun:
I'm just kidding.
Shannon:
no,
Shun:
I'm
Shannon:
you
Shun:
just
Shannon:
go ahead.
Shun:
kidding
Shannon:
No, you can
Shun:
I'm gonna run it. I'm gonna run it. Want me to run it for the fictional family instead? Yes, I just
Shannon:
No,
Shun:
thought
Shannon:
go
Shun:
about
Shannon:
ahead
Shun:
it, but I can say it right now
Shannon:
Oh yeah, you can say it now.
Shun:
Look, I'm like I can say right
Rashawn:
I'm like,
Shun:
now like
Rashawn:
can
Shun:
a little
Rashawn:
I
Shun:
kid
Rashawn:
say?
Shun:
Can I go mommy? Um The best
Shannon:
Ha ha
Shun:
man
Shannon:
ha.
Shun:
the series and I'm y'all both losing y'all black carpet not seeing it. But anyways, um, it's like great It was like the bomb So you guys I know you all know, uh the football character morris chestnut You know his character right
Rashawn:
Uh-huh.
Shun:
in the best man. Remember
Rashawn:
Yeah.
Shun:
his wife died in the second one of cancer, right?
Rashawn:
Cancer.
Shun:
So now he's stuck raising these three children. No four. He's four kids The oldest son who was big and strong like his daddy got him on the football field He's like throwing balls like breaking record numbers, right? He's like my son's gonna be a football player and in that movie. What's the pretty girl name? Nia long is their godmom because remember she was the mom's best friend
Shannon:
Yes.
Rashawn:
Right.
Shun:
And she taxed her with, you know, helping him with the kids when he died. So she's running this big multi-million. She works in this big multi-million company and the son is interning for his schooling. Right. So
Rashawn:
Mm-hmm.
Shun:
she was like, I can't talk to my dad. I don't play football. So she said, well, you can tell auntie. What's her name in there? Y'all anyway, we'll call auntie Nia. I don't remember her name. You can
Shannon:
I
Shun:
tell
Shannon:
don't either.
Shun:
auntie Nia anything, you know, you can, you can Jordan, you can tell auntie Jordan anything.
Shannon:
I'll show it in.
Shun:
He says, okay, she said to be yourself. He says, I don't want to play football. She's like, listen, with Auntie Jordan, you know, let your hair down. I'm not your father. Cause his father was real strict. You know, he's a disciplinary.
Shannon:
and
Shun:
He strolled into work the next day, y'all, and some stilettos, a Gucci coat. He was, he was sharp now, but we're all girl clothes and a face full of makeup. He was gay.
Rashawn:
Woohoo! Okay!
Shun:
Now that's, that's it. That's his thing. And that's fine. She was like,
Rashawn:
Right.
Shun:
I know it's a Christian show y'all but I gotta say it so she just told him this
Shannon:
Yeah.
Shun:
field the night before he's walking across The thing she said oh
Shannon:
Yeah.
Shun:
shit Because
Shannon:
Hahaha!
Shun:
I know that's like the last thing she expected right
Shannon:
Hehehehehehe
Shun:
But he
Rashawn:
Thank
Shun:
felt
Rashawn:
you.
Shun:
so comfortable with his auntie mama that no one else knew
Shannon:
Uh
Shun:
besides,
Shannon:
huh.
Shun:
you know a few of his friends
Rashawn:
Mm-hmm.
Shun:
So she told
Shannon:
Mm-hmm.
Shun:
him you need to tell your father you need to tell your father He said she said want me to talk to him. He said, please don't tell please don't tell They messed around with social media him and one of the friends were playing with and he was like posted and they were at a party and the father saw it and He was pissed with all of his friends in the room because they knew the boy, you know was living the life and they didn't
Shannon:
Yeah.
Shun:
tell him So it just reminds me of the story
Shannon:
Bye.
Shun:
you're telling ray Like where do you cross the line like where do you boundaries? Where do you keep the you know the trust
Rashawn:
Mm-hmm.
Shun:
and? He was like really pissed at auntie Jordan because she didn't tell him and he snatched her
Rashawn:
Okay.
Shun:
away from him, but Like she was in a situation, you know, I can imagine
Shannon:
Yeah,
Shun:
that being a hard place
Shannon:
yeah.
Shun:
because this kid trust that he has no mom, his mom is gone. She's deceased. And so
Shannon:
Right.
Shun:
she was just at a hard spot. And of course in the end, you know, they got the boy ran away and they couldn't find him and it scared him so bad.
Shannon:
Oh
Shun:
He said,
Shannon:
no.
Shun:
Lord, give me the strength to accept my son, whatever way he is.
Shannon:
Mm.
Shun:
And they found him and now that should make you want to go watch the movie. But yeah,
Rashawn:
Yeah.
Shun:
that's just when she's telling me in the question, I asked, where do you draw the line? That's just what I feel. You got
Rashawn:
Yeah.
Shun:
it, you know, she was in a hard spot.
Rashawn:
Right.
Shannon:
Right.
Rashawn:
See, I think you make it known to the to the child before you just go behind it back and because if they come
Shannon:
Right.
Rashawn:
into you and they're saying, please don't tell, please don't tell. And then you giving them the OK, I won't tell. And then you turn around and tell.
Shannon:
Yeah,
Rashawn:
That's where the distrust
Shannon:
yeah.
Rashawn:
like, oh, I'm never going to tell her. I'm never going to tell him anything
Shannon:
Exactly.
Rashawn:
else. But
Shannon:
Or
Rashawn:
if you
Shannon:
any
Rashawn:
sit
Shannon:
adult.
Rashawn:
him down, right.
Shun:
or any adult,
Rashawn:
But if
Shun:
right, that's right.
Rashawn:
you know, if you sit down like I like, listen. Trust me, I gotta tell your mom or I gotta tell your dad, but this is how we gonna do it. I let them know before I even do it. It may take me hours to get through to them, but they know that I'm not doing it behind their back. I told them, I have to tell your parents. You know what I mean?
Shun:
Well,
Shannon:
Right.
Shun:
yeah,
Rashawn:
So they, right.
Shun:
and then that case, he asked her not to tell, he said, give me time to do it myself. But then he went to social media and outed himself before anyone could talk. And she was like in a
Shannon:
Thanks.
Shun:
hard spot because she respected his wishes to let me figure out how to tell him, right? But then
Shannon:
Right.
Shun:
he
Rashawn:
Right.
Shun:
blasted himself on social media. So now she's looking like, you know, oh man. So yeah,
Rashawn:
Right.
Shun:
that was just a hard spot to be in.
Rashawn:
Yeah.
Shannon:
Yeah, yeah.
Shun:
So if you've been called, Shanna, you have anything else, honey, you wanna answer that before we go
Shannon:
No.
Shun:
for the dialogue? No? All right, so, you know, I guess we'll wrap up and move into our next segment. But before we go, if you've been called to the role of Auntie Mama, or maybe, you know, you just naturally assume the role like Ray did, because that's who you
Rashawn:
Oh
Shun:
are, you know,
Shannon:
Yeah.
Shun:
honor it. Remember, sometimes kids may feel you're all they have. And in some cases, you absolutely are all they have. But as
Shannon:
Right.
Shun:
we told the uncles on last week, it can get heavy sometimes. So be sure to keep a healthy balance, you know, but we know God gives us strength, you know, for our Collins and he puts us all where we need to be. So just
Rashawn:
Exactly.
Shun:
do your best if you're calling to the role and God will do the rest. So Ray, you are about
Rashawn:
Yes.
Shun:
to experience your first real live red line. Are you ready?
Shannon:
Red, black.
Rashawn:
I'm ready.
Shun:
Up close and personal. Okay, this week's title of red line is, don't take it out on her. I want to remind the brothers of Auntie Momma's, you know, last week we got you ladies, we don't get the guys today. I wanna remind you fellas, or whoever the male may be, maybe
Rashawn:
We
Shun:
you're
Rashawn:
are
Shun:
not
Rashawn:
the
Shun:
the
Rashawn:
best.
Shun:
brother of the mother, whoever the male is in the child's life, don't take offense or have issues with the person your child may choose to confide in, or just feel like releasing to. If you have mama issues, you know, or the mother, your child is not doing what she's supposed to do. And maybe you and the child's mother just don't communicate anymore. Whatever the case may be. Don't punish Auntie
Rashawn:
Thank
Shun:
Mama
Rashawn:
you.
Shun:
for being the child's go-to person. And I speak to this from experience, you know, the father feels like, you know, one of my sister's kids, father, they're not getting along with my sister. They have custody of the child. They're not seeing eye to eye, then I can't see the child or communicate with them. Don't allow personal mess to affect your child. And don't let it get you hurt either. I'm just kidding, but a little bit for real. I'm gonna see mine,
Shannon:
Yeah,
Shun:
cause I go hard for
Shannon:
yeah.
Shun:
my nieces and nephews just like I do for the ones I birth. So just a
Shannon:
Bye.
Shun:
little disclaimer. Don't take it out on me or any of the aunties in the world who's tried to step up and just be there for the child. Don't let personal issues override what's best for your children.
Shannon:
Right, right.
Shun:
And that's my red line for the day.
Shannon:
Yeah,
Rashawn:
I love it. I
Shannon:
yeah,
Rashawn:
love it.
Shannon:
please, yeah. I hope they do realize that, you know, whatever issue they may have with you, the Auntie Mama,
Shun:
Yeah, right.
Shannon:
you know, has nothing to do with the child, or they're, you know, affecting the benefit that child is getting from their Auntie Mama. And we never want that for our children.
Shun:
Because men, if you have babies by sisters that are not good moms, that doesn't apply to the whole family sometimes.
Shannon:
Yeah,
Shun:
So just
Shannon:
yeah.
Shun:
because that person may not be a good mom, don't take it out on the whole family. At least let the child have their aunts if they can't have an effective relationship with their mom.
Rashawn:
I agree.
Shun:
Okay, so where they sending their redline submissions
Shannon:
All right.
Shun:
to Shannon?
Shannon:
Awesome. So if you would like the chance to win a $100 gift card, submit your red lines to wifeyandbabymamaatgmail.com. Sean and I will choose one winner a month the third Thursday of each month we will announce that winner.
Rashawn:
Thanks for watching!
Shannon:
And that's it. person will receive a $100 gift card for submitting their red lines that we will read on our podcast.
Shun:
If
Shannon:
Once
Shun:
it's chosen.
Shannon:
if it's chosen and it is wifeyandbabymama at gmail.com and thank you all for your submissions. All right, so since we've already done our fictional family, it looks like we are wrapping up for tonight.
Rashawn:
Ha
Shannon:
Thank
Rashawn:
ha.
Shannon:
you, Sean, for that fictional family. Love it.
Shun:
Hehehe
Shannon:
So yes, Ray and I will
Shun:
It would have been bad if y'all saw the movie.
Shannon:
go and watch.
Rashawn:
Why?
Shun:
Right, now
Rashawn:
Right.
Shun:
y'all got homework.
Rashawn:
Because
Shannon:
Yes.
Rashawn:
I need my black card back.
Shannon:
I
Rashawn:
Let
Shannon:
only had half of one, only had half one,
Rashawn:
me go look this
Shannon:
you
Rashawn:
up. Don't
Shannon:
know,
Rashawn:
feel bad, I only had
Shannon:
the
Rashawn:
half
Shannon:
South
Rashawn:
of one through.
Shannon:
Dakota.
Rashawn:
Thank you. I only had half
Shun:
Yeah,
Rashawn:
of one
Shun:
you
Rashawn:
too,
Shun:
only
Rashawn:
I
Shun:
had
Rashawn:
need that
Shun:
half of
Rashawn:
one back.
Shun:
one Shannon for being in South Dakota and Ray, you only get a half one because you too light. We don't know. I still don't know what side you fall on. So y'all both up in the air. So it was, y'all better go get it back.
Rashawn:
The half she took
Shannon:
Oh,
Rashawn:
I need
Shannon:
we
Rashawn:
it back.
Shannon:
will.
Shun:
We want
Shannon:
Um,
Shun:
to thank you Ray before we wrap
Shannon:
yes,
Shun:
up for Shannon wraps
Shannon:
we
Shun:
this
Shannon:
do.
Shun:
up. I want to thank you for joining us Ray is becoming a brand new bride soon guys. So we certainly thank
Shannon:
Congratulations.
Shun:
you for taking the time out. Yeah
Rashawn:
Thank
Shun:
So
Rashawn:
you.
Shun:
I
Rashawn:
All
Shun:
know how
Rashawn:
right.
Shun:
that
Shannon:
Yes.
Shun:
can be we both know how that can be So thank you for taking time out of your crazy schedule to share with us tonight And we appreciate
Rashawn:
Thank you.
Shun:
your kind words honey and your valued advice. We appreciate it
Rashawn:
I appreciate
Shannon:
Yes,
Rashawn:
you
Shannon:
we
Rashawn:
guys
Shannon:
do.
Rashawn:
for having me. Thank you so much.
Shannon:
and you're welcome back anytime.
Shun:
anytime.
Rashawn:
Thank you, ladies.
Shannon:
All right. And to all of our listeners, we appreciate you for tuning in every week. We appreciate your feedback. We enjoy positive as well as a little bit of negative. We'll take it
Rashawn:
Mm-hmm
Shun:
We'll take it.
Shannon:
any way we can grow. So join us next week, 730. We will talk to you then. Love you all.
Rashawn:
Bye.
Shun:
Love you. Bye.